别坐那么远 Don't sit so far away.
- 我们要避免制造任何距离 - 好的 Anything that creates a distance should be avoided. - Okay.
尽量别皱眉头 And try not to frown.
- 很抱歉 我皱眉头了吗？ - 你得放松 - I'm sorry. Was I frowning? - You have to relax.
如果你不放松，又怎么指望我开放些呢？ How can I be expected to open up if you're not relaxed?
- 好 - 做一次深呼吸 Right. - Take a deep breath.
再来一次 Start again.
［吸气］ [ Inhales ]
像你看到的 As you can see
这张纸被分成了和多方格 This piece of paper has been divided into squares.
总共是 287 块 There are 287 of them.
你的性经历会以一种隐性编码填在这一页里 Your sex history will fit on this single page in a cryptic code.
别忘了提到没有这种编码的写入密钥 Don't forget to mention that there's no written key to the code.
被测试者坦率直言的唯一情况… The interview subject will only be candid...
就是他知道他在绝对完全自信地说话 ifhe knows he's speaking in the strictest confidence.
对 好的 Right. Okay.
那么你的生日是哪天？ So, when were you born?
1894 年 6 月 23 日 June 23, 1 894.
单身还是已婚？ Are you single or married?
已婚 Married.
- 是哪一个种族的？ - What is your race?
- 别浪费时间问这些明显的事，马丁 - Don't waste time asking the obvious, Martin.
- 你自己填写吧 - 你信仰什么宗教？ Fill it in yourself. - What is your religion?
- 循道宗教 - 你多久上一次教堂？ Methodist. - How often do you attend church?
现在不去了，但我 19 岁之前经常去 Not at all now, but I did regularly until I was 1 9.
在你成长过程中与父母的关系怎么样？ How did you get along with your father and mother when you were growing up?
那是个多重问题 That's a multiple question.
允许我忽略任何我不想回答的部分 It allows me to ignore any part I don't want to answer.
- 和你母亲相处得怎样？ - 很好 How did you get along with your mother? - Fine.
- 我们关系密切 - 你父亲呢？ We had a close relationship. - And your father?
- 和父亲相处得如何？ How did you get along with your father?
我们要做什么呢？ And what are we to do?
我们避开肉体上的问题… We turn away from matters of the flesh...
来关注精神上的… and we turn to things...
东西 of the spirit.
性欲… Lust...
有一千条大街… has a thousand avenues--
舞厅，冷饮室… the dance hall, the ice cream parlor...
交谊大厅… the tenement saloon...
土耳其浴 the Turkish bath.
就像九头蛇… Like the Hydra...
到处长出新头 it grows new heads everywhere.
甚至现代科学发明… Even the modern inventions of science...
也习惯于培养不道德 are used to cultivate immorality.
内燃机… The gas engine...
让我们可以驾车兜风… has brought us the automobile joyride...
还有甚至更为巨大的威胁… and an even more pernicious menace...
路边妓院 the roadside brothel.
电力… Electricity...
让低劣的电影展成为可能 has made possible the degrading picture show.
因为那部电话… Because of the telephone...
一个少妇… a young woman...
可以在枕边听到求爱者… can hear the voice of her suitor...
…的声音，如同就在身旁 on the pillow, right next to her.
还有，我们别忘了所有发明中最可耻的… And let's not forget the most scandalous invention of all--
手动滑链… the talon-slide fastener...
也被称之为拉链… otherwise known as the zipper...
也让每个男人和男孩迅速步入… which provides every man and boy speedy access...
…道德的遗忘 to moral oblivion.
你现在身体状况好吗？ Are you currently in good health?
我猜想是的 哼哼 I suppose so. Mm-hmm.
是什么令你有一虑？ What makes you doubtful?
我看过的每个医生 Every doctor I've ever seen.
以前得的病让我感到心虚 Early disease left me with a weakened heart.
有没有患过什么病让你不能去上学吗？ Did you have any illnesses that kept you out of school?
我患过伤寒和佝偻病 I had typhoid fever and rickets.
还有风湿热 Also rheumatic fever.
麻疹、水痘、肺炎… Measles, chicken pox, pneumonia...
还有几次流感发作 and several bouts of influenza.
波米洛伊，你在干什么？ Pomeroy, what are you doing?
你比马丁更糟糕 You're worse than Martin.
绝对不要对人作出判断 Never make judgments about people.
我没有 I wasn't.
你的身体姿势告诉我 我的病历表让你感到不舒服 Your body posture told me that my list of ailments made you uncomfortable.
可能是吧 抱歉 Maybe it did. Sorry.
保持不下判断的态度… Maintaining a nonjudgmental attitude...
…比你想象的要难 is harder than you think.
最好的方式是微笑，点点头… The best way is to smile, nod your head...
…直接看着我的眼睛 while looking me directly in the eye.
说到哪儿了？ Where were we?
你小时候的健康 Your health as a boy.
最后我开始户外运动，身体好多了 It improved greatly when I finally discovered the outdoors.
从来没有比投身到野外更令我兴奋的… I never got over the excitement of setting off into the wild...
逃离床铺、病痛、家庭 escaping bed, illness, family.
一个人吗？ Alone?
不 不 从没一个人 No. No. Never alone.
我周围都是朋友 I was surrounded by friends.
户外运动教我要相信自己的判断 Being in the outdoors taught me to rely on my own judgment.
我开始研究事物，通过捕捉它们… I started to learn about things by grasping them...
品尝它们、观察它们 tasting them, looking at them.
- 生物学？ - 对 Biology? - Yes.
生物学 Biology.
生命的科学 The science oflife.
田野和树林变成了我新的圣地… The fields and woods became my new place of worship...
…我的大教堂 my cathedral.
唯一让我悲伤的是 在我必须离开的时候 The only sadness they brought was when I had to leave them.
你第一次自慰的时候有多大年纪？ How old were you when you first tried to pleasure yourself?
别 别 别这样委婉 No. No. No euphemisms.
如果你和一个大学研究生说话… If you're talking to a college graduate...
就说“手淫”、“睾丸”、“阴茎”… use ''masturbation,'' ''testicles,'' ''penis''...
“阴道”、“外阴”、“排尿”、“排便” ''vagina, '' ''vulva, '' ''urination, '' ''defecation. ''
对低年级的男性，就说“自摸”、“蛋”… With the lower-level male, it's ''jacking off,'' ''balls''...
“鸡鸡”、“屄”、“尿”、“屎” 'prick, '' ''cunt, '' 'piss, '' ''shit. ''
我不明白，格布哈德 也许你的哈佛学位对我们的目标来说太高了 I don't know, Gebhard. Maybe your Harvard degree is too ivory tower for our purposes.
我是在西部长大的 I was brought up out west.
我一辈子都和牧场主、矿工接触 I've rubbed shoulders with ranchers, miners my whole life.
- 我想你还是把小胡子刮掉的好 - 我喜欢这样 And I thought you were gonna shave that mustache. - I like it.
这是个假装，是个掩盖 It's a disguise, a cover-up.
随便看部电影 恰好 流氓们总是留着小胡子 Look at any movie. The villain's always the one with the mustache.
我妻子喜欢 My wife likes it.
你有一个机会对知识和科学做出重要贡献 You have a chance to make an important contribution to knowledge and science.
而你告诉我为了脸上的一撮毛就放弃了？ Are you telling me you'd give that up for a little facial hair?
没错，我想是这样 Yes, I suppose I am.
啊 Ah.
好吧，那就修剪一下 Well, keep it trimmed.
那我们继续谈手淫的问题 Let's get back to masturbation.
那是交配的叫声 That's a mating call.
那么，你是怎样结束在 史蒂文斯学院的学业的，艾尔？ So, how'd you wind up at the Stevens Institute, Al?
我以为你想成为生物学家 I thought you wanted to be a biologist.
世界上的科学家够多了，朋友 There are enough scientists in the world, son.
现在社会需要的是工程师 Engineers are what society needs now.
我，呃…我的一个老毛病又犯了 I, um-- I had one of the old fits again.
我就尽量忍住 I tried to stop it.
任何会引起性冲动发泄 的行为都必须阻止 ''Any habit which causes the sex fluid to be discharged must be resisted.
医生联系了各种各样的疾病… ''Doctors link it to an assortment of illnesses...
包括发疯、瞎眼、癫痫… ''including insanity, blindness, epilepsy...
…甚至死亡 even death.''
如果发生的时候你在睡觉呢？ What if it happens while you're asleep?
据说一盎司精液的流失… ''It is said that the loss of one ounce of seminal fluid...
相当于 40 盎司血液的流失 equals the loss of 40 ounces of blood.''
我会杀掉自己，甚至不会醒来 I'm killing myself, and I'm not even awake.
那我们该怎么办？ What are we supposed to do?
内心保持空虚… ''Keep your bowels open...
阅读《山上宝训》… ''read the Sermon on the Mount...
坐着，把睾丸浸在一碗冷水中… ''sit with your testicles submerged in a bowl of cold water...
想象母亲纯洁的爱 think of your mother's pure love.''
为什么不祈祷？ Why don't we pray.
来吧 继续发问 Come on. Keep firing questions.
迅雷不及掩耳的提问 让被测试者难以撒谎 Extreme rapidity makes it very difficult for a subject to lie.
你第一次在梦中达到性高潮是什么时候？ How young were you the first time you had an orgasm while dreaming?
- 你多长时间梦遗一次？ How frequently did you have wet dreams?
- 你梦见了什么？ What did you dream about?
你第一次经历拥抱或接吻是什么时候？ How young were you when you first experienced hugging or kissing?
- 爱抚？ - 亲吻？ - 口交？ Necking? - Petting? - Oral sex?
你从什么时候不再 把父母的家当作自己的？ How young were you when you no longer thought of your parents' home as your own?
艾尔，天色晚了 我们走吧 Al, it's getting late. Let's make the rounds.
- 艾尔！ - 马上下来！ - Al.! - Be right down!
一包法蒂玛 Pack of Fatimas.
好的，小伙儿 15 美分 Okay, son. That'll be 15 cents.
你犯罪了，先生 You're a criminal, sir.
我应该 立即向地方当局报案 I shall report you at once to the local authorities.
我的老天，该死的新教徒 Dear Jesus, a goddamn Protestant.
- 你不会把这种肮脏的玩意儿卖给未成年人吧 Did you not sell this vile weed to a minor?
- 这和你有什么相干？ What business is that of yours?
保护青少年不受诱惑是主的职责 It is the Lord's work to protect the young from temptation.
- 像你这种人，先生，性格软弱的人… - 滚出我的商店去 Men like you, sir, Men of weak character... - get the hell out of my store.
我已经适当警告过， 你令思想健康的美国公民反感 - I've given you proper warning. -are offensive to right-thinking American citizens--
闭嘴！你以为你是谁啊，神父？窃贼 Shut up! You know what you are, Father? A prig.
- 艾尔 - 吝啬鬼，小气的暴君，十足的伪君子！ - Al. - A skinflint, a petty tyrant and a hypocrite to boot!
你觉得你在乎吗？我可不在乎 You think you matter? You don't matter.
他的脑子有毛病 There's something wrong with him.
- 过来，艾尔 - 不 Come on, Al. - No.
可能你的工作量太大了 Maybe your workload is too heavy.
你可以把机械绘图放一放 You could drop mechanical drawing.
我已经退出了史蒂文斯 I've withdrawn from Stevens.
那不可能 That's impossible.
我是一名高级教员 应该有人告诉我 I'm a senior member of the faculty. Someone would've informed me.
为什么？那儿人人都讨厌你 Why? Everyone there hates you.
我要去包德恩学习生物学 I'm going to Bowdoin to study biology.
你打算怎么付学费？ And how do you intend to pay for that?
他们给了我部分奖学金 They've given me a partial scholarship.
我也已经筹到了足够的钱 And I've socked away most of my scouting money.
你已经成了个隐晦的人，艾尔… You've become a shady person, Al...
保留着自己的秘密 a person who keeps secrets.
我没得选择 I had no choice.
你可真够让人失望的 What a disappointment you turned out to be.
- 你一共读了多少念书？ - 二十年 - How many years of schooling did you complete? - Twenty.
在包德恩拿到我的本科学位后… After taking my undergraduate degree at Bowdoin...
我在哈佛布塞学院获得博士学位 I received my doctorate from the Bussey Institute at Harvard.
我担任了动物学助理教授的职位… I took a position as assistant professor of zoology...
就这儿的印第安纳大学 here at Indiana University.
我首先研究云顶大鹿角… At first I studied the Rhaetulus didieri...
或者鹿角锹甲 or stag beetle.
后来我发现了一种更迷人的昆虫 Then I discovered a far more fascinating insect.
这是美国犬儒蜂科，或称瘿蜂 This is the American Cynipidae, or gall wasp.
这儿瘿蜂把蛋存放进… Here the wasp deposits an egg...
宿主植物体内 into its host plant.
这个案例，一棵栎树 In this case, an oak tree.
瘿蜂成虫已经开始在树内咬出一条路… The adult wasp chews its way through the tree...
并进行交媾 and copulates.
这时候它就会在快感中死去 At which point it has the good sense to die.
动物王国包括… The animal kingdom includes...
至少两百万昆虫种类 at least two million insect species.
那为什么瘿蜂就这么吸引人呢？ So, what makes the gall wasp so fascinating?
我花了过去三年时间… I've spent the last three years...
走遍大陆，收集瘿蜂 crisscrossing the continent, collecting gall wasps.
在这个只有蚂蚁一半大的小朋友身上 我学到了什么呢？ And what have I learned from my tiny friends, half the size of the household ant?
你需要约会 That you need a date.
- 噻！ Shh!
在显微镜下研究了几千个 这种恼人的生物后… After studying thousands of these pesky creatures under the microscope...
我还没发现有哪一只瘿蜂和另一只相同 I've yet to find a single gall wasp that's the same as another.
实际上，有些是如此地不同… In fact, some are so different...
以至于同一代瘿蜂的后代… that the offspring of one generation...
和父辈没有任何相似， 甚至超过熊之于山羊 bear no more resemblance to their parents than a sheep bears to a goat.
我们这些人能从这一事实中得到安慰 There are those of us who might take comfort in this fact.
思考它的内涵 Consider the implications.
如果每一个生命体都和另外的不一样… If every single living thing is different from every other living thing...
那多样性就是生命不可缩减的事实 then diversity becomes life's one irreducible fact.
只有变化是真实的 Only variations are real.
要看到它们… And to see them...
你只须睁开你的眼睛 you simply have to open your eyes.
你好 我可以坐这儿吗？ Hello. Mind if I sit here?
为什么？ Why?
因为你是唯一的未婚男性… Because you're the only unattached male...
而我是唯一的未婚女性 and I'm the only unattached female.
那很有道理 That's very sensible.
会做饭的男人 真提神 A man who cooks. How refreshing.
我在西部收集瘿蜂的时候就学会了 I picked it up when I went out west to collect galls.
我出去了11个月，这段时间见过的人应该不超过一打 I was gone for 11 months, and I don't think I saw more than a dozen people the whole time.
- 听起来很孤独 - 哦 Sounds lonely. - Oh.
我很喜欢 I enjoyed it.
我已经钻研过瘿蜂 I've been reading up on gall wasps.
- 我想我知道它们为何吸引你 - 啊哈 I think I know why they appeal to you. - Uh-huh.
他们有很大的翅膀却飞不起来 They have great big wings, but they can't fly.
它们不能从一座山移动到另一座山… They are incapable of getting from this hill to that hill...
除非近得可以走过去… unless it's close enough to walk...
那就是说有可能… which means it's possible...
回头走每一代的路，一座座山… to retrace each generation's steps, hill by hill...
一座座山… by hill by hill...
沿着所有的路回到起点 all the way back to the very beginning.
瘿蜂的伊甸园 The gall wasp Garden of Eden.
那太有趣了，米伦小姐 That's very interesting, Miss Millen.
你用一句话就弥合了达尔文和《创世纪》之间的鸿沟 You've managed to bridge the gap between Darwin and the Book of Genesis in a single phrase.
- 麦柯米伦 - 嗯？ McMillen. - Mmm?
- 克拉拉·麦克米伦 - 哦！ - Clara McMillen. - Oh!
我是金教 I'm Prok.
- 什么？ - 这时我的本科学生给我的绰号 - Sorry? - It's a nickname my graduate students have given me.
金赛教授 金教 Pro-- fessor K-- insey. Prok.
首先我担心这暗示了老师和学生之间的… At first I worried that it suggested an inappropriate level of intimacy...
一种不当的亲密关系… between teacher and student...
那会导致尊重界限的丧失 that could lead to a loss of respect down the line.
我想这只是他们喜欢你 I think it just means they like you.
是的 最后我认识到了 Yes. Eventually I realized that.
啊，要番茄汤和三明治吗？ Um, tomato bisque and sandwiches?
好的 Please.
多么吸引人的收藏 Such an impressive collection.
谢谢 它们以前是按照时期分类的 Thanks. They used to be categorized by period.
但后来我按照作者的首写字母排列 But then I rearranged them alphabetically by composer.
我发现这更有效率 I find it's more efficient.
你曾经想过职业演奏吗？因为你非常棒 Did you ever think about playing professionally? Because you're very good.
哦，拜托 谢谢！ Oh, please. Thank you.
可是，啊，“非常棒”还不够棒 But, uh, ''very good'' isn't good enough.
我有份礼物给你 I got you a present.
- 啊！ - 给 - Ah! - Here.
噢 Oh.
哦，太奇妙了！ Oh, how marvelous!
大小正合适 - They're the right size. - Oh!
哦！ Oh!
你第一次婚前性行为是多少岁？ At what age did you first have premarital intercourse?
我没有 I didn't.
- 这么说在结婚时仍是处男？ - 对 So, at the time of marriage you were a virgin? - Yes.
你的配偶也是吗？ Was your spouse also a virgin?
是的 Yes.
你结婚的时候，是不是想要结婚？ When you got married, did you want to get married?
很想 Very much.
我把婚姻看成一生的平等合作伙伴关系 I see marriage as a lifetime partnership between equals.
你是个才华横溢的学者， 有极敏锐的思想… You're a brilliant scholar with a keenly perceptive mind...
对自然有深深的敬意 and a profound respect for nature.
你是个能干的步行者、 野营者和冠军游泳家… You're a capable hiker and camper and a champion swimmer...
你是百万人中和我一样 对昆虫感兴趣的女孩儿 and you're the one girl in a million who's as interested in insects as I am.
老实说，金教… To be honest, Prok...
我还不确定 I'm just not sure.
好 Okay.
- 我认为自己有自由思想 - 对！ - I consider myself a free thinker. - Yes!
坦白说，我发现你有一点“教条” Frankly, I find you a little ''churchy.''
“教条”？ ''Churchy''?
我有另外的建议 And I've had another proposal.
我不是反对 我需要时间 I'm not saying no. I just need time.
金教 Prok.
我觉得你卑鄙！ I think you're mean!
卑鄙、无情、冷漠！ Mean, heartless and cold!
令人震惊 Astounding.
如果你拥有我 If you'll have me.
琥珀中的瘿蜂 A gall wasp in amber.
- 有多久了？ - 大约八千万年前吧 - How old is it? - About 80 million years or so.
金赛夫人喜欢她的结婚礼物吗？ Does Mrs. Kinsey like her wedding present?
完美 It's perfect.
- 对不起 - 不，不，我… - I'm sorry. - No, no, I--
我… I--
太美了 How beautiful.
可以吗？ May I?
对不起 I'm sorry.
我有点紧张 I'm a little nervous.
没关系 我们不必… It's okay. W-We don't have to--
不！ No!
我准备好了 I'm ready.
- 原谅我，麦克 - 不，我很抱歉 - Forgive me, Mac. - No, I'm sorry.
只是…太痛苦了 It's just-- It hurts too much.
要…要开车很久回到父母家里 It's-- It's a long drive to my parents'.
我们该睡一会儿觉 We should get some sleep.
罗伯特的机械绘图得了 92… Robert's had a 92 in mechanical drawing...
数学 95… a 95 in mathematics...
商店实践… and a clean 1 00...
得了 100 in shop practice.
啊 那太好了，罗伯特 祝贺你 Huh. That's splendid, Robert. Congratulations.
我担心他的老师对他偏袒… I was worried that his teachers were showing him favor...
因为我的职位较高… due to my senior position...
但他们告诉我他是班上最具天赋的学生 but they tell me he is the most gifted student in his class.
哦，和史蒂芬斯最厉害的老师 住在一起并不痛苦，爸爸 Well, living with the best teacher at Stevens doesn't hurt, Father.
哦，拜托 Oh, please.
这么下来，他会在，啊，三年后拿到学位 At this rate, he'll finish his degree in, uh, three years.
艾尔，告诉我们你最近在忙什么？ Al, tell us what you've been working on.
- 嗯 - 别烦恼，艾尔 - Well-- - Don't bother, Al.
她的脑筋可更不上你 她只接收了四年的教育 She won't be able to follow you. She's only had a fourth-grade education.
我在研究瘿蜂，妈妈 I'm studying gall wasps, Mom.
我已经收集了 100，000 个标本， 其实只能算沧海一粟 I've gathered over 100,000 specimens, which is really only a drop in the bucket.
但我的目标是… But my aim is--
十年的高等教育，而他还在收集虫子 Ten years of higher education, and he's still collecting bugs.
金教也写了一本生物教科书 Prok's also written a biology textbook.
真的？ Really?
全国的大学都在使用 It's read in colleges across the country.
真的写得非常好 It's actually a very good read.
那我想你计划很快要成家了 So I assume you plan to start a family soon.
不，不…我还不急 No, no, I-- Don't rush it.
一旦有了孩子，你就永远 被束缚住 一生都完了 Once you have children, you're tied down forever--your life is over.
什么？ What?
我不清楚自己究竟期望什么… I don't know what I expected, exactly...
但他比我想象的坏多了 but he's far worse than I ever imagined.
他糟透了，是吗？ He is pretty awful, isn't he?
我曾经读到… - ''I once read... - Shh!
罗马帝国的衰落… ''that the decline of the Roman empire...
是洗澡太多的结果 was the result of too-frequent bathing.''
有人揣测… ''Some speculate...
猛烈的奸情… ''that rampant adultery...
可能会引发地震 is a possible cause of earthquakes.''
对不起你必须去见证 I'm sorry you had to witness that.
我想我今夜真的爱上你了 I think I really fell in love with you tonight.
在这儿看见你 Seeing you here.
你觉得我们可以吗，麦克？ Do you think we can make this work, Mac?
不知道 I don't know.
我…我已经听说一些人… I've-- I've heard some people...
不适合在一起 just don't fit together.
我不想和任何人在一起 There's no one I'd rather be with.
身体上的？我是说… Physically? I mean--
只要有某种能知道的方法 If only there were some way to know.
那就是了，麦克 That's it, Mac.
每个问题都有解答——即使是这个 Every problem has a solution-- even this one.
我们只需要找个人谈谈， 一个研究这方面的专家 We just need to talk to someone, an expert who's studied the matter.
你在干什么？ What are you doing?
为什么还浪费时间？ Why waste any more time?
你的处女膜厚度不规则 Your hymen shows an inordinate thickness.
金赛教授，你的阴茎有多大？ Dr. Kinsey, how large is your penis?
什么？ Excuse me?
直起的时候，它有多大？ When erect, how large is it?
从阴囊的长度吗？这儿？ How long from the scrotum? Here?
这儿？ Here?
很奇怪你居然没昏倒 I'm surprised you didn't pass out.
我们还能做什么吗？ Is there anything we can do?
这是个足够平常的问题 你今天就想要解决吗？ It's a common-enough problem. Would you like to take care of it today?
当然 Sure.
- 哦！ - 上帝！ - Oh! - God!
- 上帝 上帝 - God. God. -
你和配偶最多性交多少次… What was the maximum number of times you had intercourse with your spouse...
在一周时间内？ in any seven-day period?
我要说…大概 20 次 I'd say... 20 or so.
第一周至少每天三次，所以至少 21 次 At least three times a day the first week, so 21 , at a minimum.
你们前戏时是否用舌头？ Is there tongue kissing during foreplay?
- 是 - 是 Yes. - Yes.
- 手放在胸部？ - 是 Hand on breast? - Yes.
- 嘴呢？ - 手放在女性生殖器上？ Mouth? - Hand on female genitalia?
- 手放在阴茎上？ - 是 Hand on penis? - Yes.
嘴在女性生殖器上？ Mouth on female genitalia?
- 嘴在阴茎上？ - 是 Mouth on penis? - Yes.
- 是 - 是 Yes. - Yes.
是 Yes.
是，是，是 Yes, yes, yes.
我 1923 年怀上了安妮 I became pregnant with Anne in 1 923.
我决定放弃我的研究生工作 I decided to give up my graduate work.
在安妮诞生时，我已经收集了 超过 200 000 只瘿蜂 By the time Anne was born, I had collected over 200,000 gall wasps.
一年后又生下了琼 Joan came along a year later.
就在琼的五岁生日后， 我达到了五十万只瘿蜂的目标 Just afterJoan's fifth birthday, I reached my goal of half a million wasps.
布鲁斯是我们最小的孩子 And Bruce is our youngest.
布鲁斯发现瘿蜂孵出了第一百万只小蜂 Bruce found the gall that hatched the millionth wasp.
就在墨西哥城外的山上 It was in the mountains outside Mexico City.
他们长得太快了 They grow up so fast.
我们不知道该对谁说，金赛教授 Wejust didn't know who to talk to, Professor Kinsey.
父母怎么样？ What about your parents?
那我宁愿死 I'd rather die.
我们听说你对学生物的学生有好建议 We heard you had good advice for some of the biology students.
新婚的人之间性的差异比你想象的平常 Sexual difficulty among newly married people is more common than you think.
没什么可羞愧的 It's nothing to be ashamed of.
- 你结婚多久了？ - 到现在两个月 How long have you been married? - Two months now.
那，艾米莉，你在那段时间 就从来没得到回答吗？ And, Emily, you've had absolutely no response during that time?
那就像我死在下面了 It's like I'm dead down there.
我们去看医生，他说没什么问题 We went to the doctor, and he said there's nothing wrong.
本用过他的手指刺激你吗？ Does Ben ever use his fingers to excite you?
嗯… Um...
为什么烦恼… why bother...
既然我们可以来真的？ now that we can do the real thing?
你们最常用的性交体位是什么？ What's your most common sexual position?
不止一种吗？ There's more than one?
麦克和我还在继续发现… Mac and I are still discovering some.
艾米莉，你婚前有过性经历吗？ Emily, were you sexually experienced before you got married?
没 No.
我还以为小孩从女人的肚脐出来的 I still thought babies came out of women's navels.
你曾经手淫过吗？ Did you ever masturbate?
那全是我的错 It's all my fault.
我收到了某种伤害 I'm damaged in some way.
我很冷淡 I'm frigid.
我根本不认为那是问题 I don't think that's the problem at all.
本，你是否尝试过为艾米莉口交？ Ben, do you ever perform oral sex on Emily?
啊，我…我不知道 那是什么意思，先生 Uh, I-- I don't know what that means, sir.
吻生殖器 Genital kissing.
我哥哥告诉我那样不好… My brother told me that that causes problems...
之后… later on...
会影响生育 with having babies.
哦，我不觉得是那样 Oh, I don't think that's true.
不，我也听说过 No, I heard that too.
我可以保证，口交和怀孕没有联系 I can assure you, there's no relation between oral sex and pregnancy.
但你怎么知道？ But how do you know?
我怎么知道地球是圆的？他就是圆的 How do I know the Earth is round? It just is.
可…有没有人证实… But... has anyone actually proven...
没有联系吗？ that there's no connection?
如果你在问是否有一门科学研究… If you're asking whether there's been a scientific study...
专注于口交和怀孕的课题… devoted to the subject of oral copulation and fertility...
哦… well...
说真的，我不知道 frankly, I don't know.
嗯… Well...
那你怎么确定？ then how can you be sure?
我感觉像个愚蠢的菜鸟 I felt like a blundering amateur.
我想不出那些幼稚疯狂的念头哪儿来的… I couldn't imagine where those kids' crazy idea came from...
知道我发现这个… until I discovered this--
理想婚姻：生理和技术 Ideal Marriage: Its Physiology and Technique.
哦，天哪 Oh, dear.
口的接触，作为产生兴奋的方法… ''Oral contact, while acceptable as a means of stimulation...
如果用以达到高潮则是病态的，还可能有害 is pathological if carried through to orgasm and possibly injurious.''
那我现在就很危险了 I must be in grave danger then.
等下 手绝对不能由来达到性刺激的目的 Wait. ''The hand should never be used for the purpose of sexual excitation.
有且只有一根爱的手指能到达女性生殖器… ''There is but one finger of love with which to approach the female genitals...
那就是男人的器官 and that is the male organ.''
一派胡言 道德掩盖了真相 It's all just hooey. Morality disguised as fact.
- 把领带打好 - 啊？哦 Just do your tie. - Hmm? Oh.
金赛教授… Professor Kinsey's methods...
在广阔的地理范围内… of collecting vast numbers of gall wasps...
收集超大量的瘿蜂的方法… over a wide geographic range...
让他成为出众的科学家 have made him a starred scientist.
他们还让他得到了不朽的绰号 They have also earned him his immortal nickname...
“得一百万”金赛 'Get-A-Million'' Kinsey.
“生一百万”金赛 'Bore-A-Million'' Kinsey.
他的新书，高级分类起源… His new book, The Origin of Higher Categories in--
“没食子蜂”？“啥食子蜂”？ ''Sinnips''? ''Cynips''?
足够接近 Close enough.
追溯瘿蜂的起源直到出生地… Traces the origin of the gall wasp back to its birthplace...
在后期白垩纪 in the Upper Cretaceous.
所以，现在我带给你们… So, now I give you...
金赛教授 Dr. Kinsey.
谢谢你，威尔斯校长， 对我 20 年工作的尖锐描述 Thank you, President Wells, for that incisive description of 20 years of work.
我想你们也许真的看过我的书… I thought you might actually have read my book...
在我看见你们手掌上抄的笔迹之前 until I saw those crib notes in your palm.
抄笔记！ Crib notes!
当然，我另一本关于没食子蜂的书… Of course, my other book on cynips...
六年内在图书馆从没有被借出去过 hasn't been checked out of the library in six years.
我很惊奇有一打的人都看过 I'd be surprised if a dozen people have read it.
但我猜我总是知道瘿蜂不会… But I guess I always knew that gall wasps weren't going to...
找上我的门来 make them beat a path to my door.
不管怎样，谢谢你，赫尔曼 In any case, thank you, Herman.
这是…这太精彩了 实在是很好的演讲 This is-- This is splendid. A really fine event indeed.
- 谢谢 - 干杯，金教 - Thank you. -Cheers, Prok.
- 祝贺你！ - 听！听！ Congratulations. -Hear.! Hear.!
干杯 Cheers.
几天前有几个本科生… Some reform-minded undergraduates...
来访问我 paid me a visit the other day, Thurman.
他们正争取开一个性知识课程 They are campaigning for a sex course.
我已经在卫生课上讲了性知识了 I already cover sex in the hygiene class.
学生把卫生课称为校园里最无用的课 Which the student paper called the most useless course on campus.
金赛先生，幸会 Oh, Kinsey. I'm glad to see middle age hasn't softened the edges.
金赛夫人 - 我觉得我们高学术的… - Mrs. Kinsey. - Not only is your class irrelevant, it's irresponsible.
有必要把性知识普及到校园里 There's a V.D. epidemic sweeping this country, Thurman.
那是我的错咯？我不知道是受了羞辱还是过奖 And that's my fault? I don't know whether to be insulted or flattered.
而且，这样说其实大家都会… Besides, there's a cure for syphilis...
几乎就是废话 and it's called abstinence.
但是有行动就不一样 Penicillin works just as well.
赫曼，我们要把陈规陋见甩到一边 Herman, the trustees appointed you to shake things up around here.
为什么不直接跟年轻人演讲，传授性知识… Why not address the need for sex instruction that deals frankly...
让他们解决真正的问题，真正关心所在呢？ with students' real questions, real concerns?
公开讲授性知识只会促进白日梦 Open sex instruction promotes daydreaming.
最好在医学课上讲授这些东西 It is better to address these matters in a general medical course.
你是说像讲授… You mean an anti-sex course...
蜜蜂的枯燥知识一样吗？ with irrelevant gabble about dahlias and bees.
先生们，请自重 Gentlemen. Please.
我会考虑接受学生的意见的 I am going to take the students'proposal under advisement.
好的 Good.
但是，因为我刚上任不久… But since I just got this job...
可能要花几个星期时间… and wouldn't mind hanging on to it for a couple of weeks...
我想我暂时还是会采纳卫生课 I think I'm gonna stick with the hygiene course for now.
医学研究表明… Medical authorities state...
十几岁少女要注意卫生保健… that, of the type of teenage girls applying at public health stations for aid...
沾染性病的可能性… the percentage that is infected with venereal disease...
是很高的 is always very high.
在所有这些情况中 In all of these cases...
精力旺盛，频繁接触异性… where youthful energy and inquisitiveness are unrestrained...
性冲动总是会被挑起… the sex urge is always present...
随之而来的可能是… and promiscuity nearly always follows...
性行为… with its inevitable harvest...
流产… of abortions, illegitimate births and...
甚至性病 disease.
你出什么问题了？洁丽 - 呃，我下面不太舒服 - What's your trouble,Jerry? - Well, I-- I've got a pretty bad sore down here.
过去那边桌子上 我们看看 Just stretch out on that table over there. We'll have a look at you.
我们可以看到… The story vividly portrays...
由于性行为而感染… the misery caused to innocent victims...
因而身体受损… by the ignorance or selfishness...
甚至畸形的人们，后果很严重 of individuals infected with syphilis.
你必须认真学习… You had to learn the hard way...
你看到一个妇女是否感染梅毒，都不能讲出去 that you can't tell by the looks of a woman whether she has syphilis or not.
我想我可能要退学 I guess that finishes me.
这样人们就不知道我是谁了 I'll have to quit school and go someplace where people don't know who I am.
这样导致青少年犯罪的一个大原因就是… The cure forjuvenile delinquency is...
教育处于危险中和… an education in the dangers and consequences...
我们破坏了时间考验的… of breaking the time-tested rules...
人类行为准则 laid down for the regulation of human conduct.
人类需要性的说法… The idea that men need sex...
是在撒谎 is a lie.
如果正确的话… If it were true...
经常锻炼性器官的男孩… the boy who exercises his sex organs regularly...
在之后的性经历中会取得最大的成功 would achieve the greatest sexual experiences in later life.
实际上，他可能到了成年… Whereas, in fact, that boy is likely to be sexually dead...
就变得性无能 by the time he reaches adulthood.
禁欲对于大学男女… Abstinence poses no difficulty...
有益无害 for the college-age male.
男人达到性高峰是在四十岁 Men don't reach their sexual peak until the age of 40.
只是比较缺乏教养得人… It is the lower-class male...
如黑人… often Negro...
才发现很难控制自己得冲动 who finds it difficult to control his urges.
但是，完全得禁欲… However, perfect inhibition...
虽然理想却不是… although an ideal to be striven for...
总能实现的 is not always achievable.
压力，以及日常得忧虑… Stress and the worries of the day...
可能因此… can lead to a weakening of resolve...
打开诱惑之门 opening the door to temptation.
当在床上紧张时… When tense at bedtime...
我发现有个小窍门可以放松一下 I find there are little tricks to relaxing.
如果你不能入睡… If I can't get to sleep...
我会闭上眼睛… I like to close my eyes...
想想我认识得所有叫做约翰的人 and think of all theJohns I know.
哦 Oh.
不只是约翰… Well, not onlyJohns.
有时候也包括比特 Sometimes Peters.
还有迪克 呢？ How about Dicks?
对不起？ I'm sorry?
欢迎来听金赛博士的讲座… If you're here to enroll in Dr. Kinsey's class...
开放对象为已婚妇女，教师，高年级学生… it's only open to faculty members and their wives, graduate students...
以及已婚的大学生 seniors and married undergraduates.
春天再来试试 Come back and try in the spring.
你是大四的吗？ Are you a senior?
我们订婚了 Um, we're engaged.
恭喜 - 谢谢 Congratulations. - Thank you.
为什么要开婚姻课程？ Why offer a marriage course?
因为社会已经干涉了… Because society has interfered...
正常得生物活动… with what should be a normal biological development...
性无知… causing a scandalous delay of sexual activity...
导致了新婚夫妇的性交困难 which leads to sexual difficulty in early marriage.
在开放得社会里，十二岁得小孩也可以上我的课… In an uninhibited society, a 12-year-old would know most of the biology...
学习基本的性知识 which I will have to give you in formal lectures.
让我们学习性爱的六阶段 So, let's start with the six stages of the coital sequence.
刺激… Stimulation...
兴奋， 勃起… lubrication, erection...
增大敏感度… increased sensitivity...
高潮，以及神经放松 orgasm and nervous release.
两性得经验都要六个阶段划分 Both sexes experience all six stages equally.
性刺激 Stimulation.
谁能告诉我人体哪个部分… Who can tell me which part of the human body...
可以张大一百倍？ can enlarge a hundred times?
麽…，小姐 Um... Miss.
我当然不知道 I'm sure I don't know.
你为什么要在男女混合的教室里问我这个问题 And you've no right to ask me such a question in a mixed class.
我只是在说你得瞳孔，小姐 I was referring to the pupil of your eye, young lady.
不好意思告诉你，让你失望了 And I think I should tell you you're in for a terrible disappointment.
睁大眼睛，性刺激开始了 It is often with the eye that stimulation begins.
男女性器官在这里… The actual adjustments which are made in the male and female genitalia...
用幻灯片得到展示 are shown on this slide.
男性器官… The vagina must be spread open...
要穿透而入 as the erect male organ penetrates.
你们可以看到… You will see that the clitoris is swollen...
阴唇是肿胀的… thus providing the erotic stimulation necessary...
所以对女性这部分得刺激很必要 for the completion of the act on the part of the female.
你们还可以看到阴茎上面最敏感的这部分… You will also see that this point on the penis...
同样地受到了刺激 which is one of the most sensitive points, is similarly stimulated.
噢！！ Ohh!
走路不长眼睛啊？ Where on earth did you get that cap?
哦． 不好意思，金赛先生 Oh. Professor Kinsey. I'm sorry.
这是婉伦的帽子 It's a whaler's hat.
不怎么漂亮，但可以用来当当风 Not very pretty, but extremely practical in a storm.
我认识你吗？ - Do I know you?
我上了你的婚姻教育课，我叫马丁 I'm in your marriage course. Clyde Martin.
你觉得怎样，马丁先生？ How are you finding it, Mr. Martin?
是我上过的最有启蒙意义的课 Oh, it's the most enlightening class I've ever taken.
好，我得走了 Well, I'd better get going.
我在生物系还有工作 I've got a job interview at the zoology department.
别管了，跟我过来 Forget that. Come with me.
好吧 All right.
别担心，金赛博士待会就来 Don't worry. Dr. Kinsey will be staying late. He'll get to all of you.
做爱过多会导致癌症吗？ Can too much sex cause cancer?
穿高跟鞋会影响性欲吗？ Will wearing high heels make me sterile?
我乳房太大了会不会刺激他 I think my vagina's abnormally shaped.
口交会得梅毒吗？ Can you get syphilis from a whistle?
同性恋是精神错乱的表现吗？ Is homosexuality a form of insanity?
我在想我的猫 I think about my cat.
非常想 A lot!
性压抑… Does su-s-s-suppressing sex...
会促进学习吗？ lead to stuttering?
我的阴茎比很多人都小吗？ Is my penis smaller than most?
过多手淫是否导致早泄？ Does too much masturbation cause premature ejaculation?
我男朋友触摸我私处是否不正常？ Is it unusual for my boyfriend to touch my anus?
都是些好问题 All excellent questions.
同样的都有一个答案－－ They all have the same answer--
我不知道 I don't know.
从性的角度看，很难说什么是正常的或反常的… From a sexual standpoint, it's hard to say what's common or rare...
因为我们对人们实际上做了什么知之甚少 because we know so little about what people actually do.
这让我们大部分人觉得焦虑或有负罪感 This leaves most of us feeling anxious or guilty.
我感兴趣的东西是对的吗？ Am I interested in the right things?
我做事的方式有没有对？ Do I do things the normal way?
了解人们做什么的方法之一… One of the ways of finding out what people do...
就是找出他们已经做了些什么 is to find out what they've done.
所以，请花时间填好这份性问卷 So please, take the time to fill out these sex questionnaires.
尽量忠实准确 Try to be as accurate and honest as you possibly can.
这是你要做到的－- 请把这些传下去 This will only work-- Pass them along, please.
只有你如实道来才有用 This will only work if you tell the truth.
金赛先生真是让人惊奇 Dr. Kinsey, this is really... amazing.
他的方式出人意表 These colors are incredible.
这是在密西西比最丰富的收藏 It's the most complete collection east of the Mississippi.
我们可以收集到超过两百种病毒 We have over 250 separate varieties of irises.
这样可以工作，但你用错了肌肉群，马丁 Good work, Martin, but you're using the wrong muscle group.
过来，这边 这样，用手臂 Come on. Here. Bend the legs. Use the thighs.
好的 - 注意角度 Okay. - the arms should only be used to guide.
不，你来 No,you do it. Guide.
Ah! Ah!
柠檬水 Lemonade.
马克，这些任务由你负责 Mac, these responses will floor you.
我们想象的和人们实际上会做的相差… The gap between what we assume people do and what they actually do...
太大了 is enormous.
你知道什么使我吃惊吗？ You know what amazes me?
最让我惊奇的是平时性感的女孩在性生活中的表现 There's no relation between how sexy a girl looks and her sex life.
丑陋的女孩表现反而不一样 The ugly ones seem to get all the action.
我一直认为丑不是一个“丑”词 I always thought ''ugly'' was an ugly word.
对不起 Sorry.
我从问卷中得知，手淫不是男性专利 Not only does every male in the class have a history of masturbation.
很多女性也如此 Most of the women do too.
我对此并不惊奇 婚前性行为呢？ That doesn't surprise me. What about premarital sex?
大约三分之一的男人承认此事 About a third of the married men claim at least one experience.
女性只有十分之一 - 这是事实吗？ - It's only one in 1 0 for the women. - If they're telling the truth.
还有婚外性行为 And there's extramarital sex too.
不止是异性恋还有同性恋 Not just heterosexual, but homosexual.
我只希望我们可以得到更多志愿被试者 I just wish we could get more volunteers.
一百个案例远远不够有代表性 A hundred cases is hardly representative.
也许只是因为是问卷 Maybe it's because it's a questionnaire.
感觉有点像心理测试 Feels too much like homework or a test.
同意，而且人们不知你是否可信 I agree. Also, people don't know if they can trust you.
他们必须安全地分享秘密 - 但是这很荒唐 - They have to be sure their secrets are safe. - But that's ridiculous.
大家都知道我用钥匙和锁保管问卷的 Everyone knows I keep those questionnaires under lock and key.
这是有道理的 Clyde has a point.
我们问的都是些敏感问题… You're asking people to reveal information that's very sensitive...
甚至有毁灭性 possibly even damaging.
如果你只是谈到呢？ What if you just talked to them?
那么你脑中又多了一个他们的秘密 Then all their secrets would be in your head.
马丁，你一个月前就该跟我说了 Martin, you should have spoken up months ago.
我不知道他是否在夸我 I can't tell. Was that a compliment?
是的 Yes, I think it was.
一开始人们都抗拒 People resist at first.
但我慢慢开导… But I'm trying to choreograph the questions...
最后很多人都同意了 so they'll be disarmed into answering.
里面要放多少东西啊，爸爸？ - 金赛肉汤，宝贝 - How many different things have you put in there, Daddy? - It's the Kinsey stew, sweetie.
冰箱里还有不少 ''Clean out the refrigerator'' night, you mean.
马丁真是出乎意料地帮了大忙 Martin's been surprisingly helpful.
他跟男性女性被试者关系都很好 He's an ideal practice subject, since he's had relations with both men and women.
你去哪了？ - 训练 Where have you been? - Swim practice.
怎么样？ - 挺好的 - How'd it go? - Pretty good.
下周教练可能让我上场了 - 实在太好了 - Coach said he might start me at the next meet. - Bruce, that's wonderful.
我告诉你除非有好转迹象不要太早游泳 I told you there won't be any more swimming unless your science grades improve.
我帮不了忙，爸爸，我讨厌生物 I can't help it, Dad. I hate biology.
那是因为你智力从来没有进步 That's because you have never developed your intellect.
身体素质很重要， 儿子… Physical activity is important, Son...
如果你要做运动，你要注意保养 but your interest in sports is excessive.
是的，也许他需要个人提供理疗建议 Yes. Maybe he should take up engineering instead.
一对一的效果不错 The one-on-one is turning out to be so elastic.
与人面对面交流从未想过会谈到的话题 Talking to people yields more information than I ever imagined.
这可以改进为有突破性的技巧 I think it will prove to be a groundbreaking technique.
通过他们胡编乱造呢？ 我就是这么做的 What if they make things up? That's what I'd do.
我有些技巧可以抓住他们的谎言和前后不一致之处 I'm building in little trip wires to catch lies and inconsistencies.
你要知道我的测试结果吗，爸爸？ - 你有什么好测试的吗？宝贝 Would you like to Take my sex history, Daddy? - do you have a sex history?
没有 No.
你呢？安妮 你跟吉姆交往有一段时间了 What about you, Anne? You've been dating Jim for a while now.
结婚再说吧 We've done some petting.
我想大学期间我们不会做爱的 I figured we wouldn't try intercourse until college.
那样应该更好 That's probably better.
如果安妮可以做，那我也应该可以 If Anne can have intercourse, I should be able to too.
你姐姐18岁了，而且正在跟人谈恋爱 Your sister's 1 8 and seriously involved with someone.
会痛吗？ Does it hurt?
什么，宝贝？ - 处女膜破了 What, dear? - Breaking the hymen.
噢… Oh...
只是一点点－- 不会太糟糕 just a little-- it's nothing too bad.
插入的时候注意角度就不会了 It helps if you spread the vulva to facilitate penetration.
不能在其他场合谈这个吗？ Can we please talk about something else for once?
其他家庭不会这样，这不正常 Other families don't do this. It isn't normal.
你什么时候变得这么一本正经了？ When did you become such a prig?
我很多朋友都当我的家人疯了 他们的父母认为你是危险人物 My friends aren't even allowed to come over here. Their parents think you're a menace!
你花了太多时间游泳了，那样对你的大脑不好 You spend too much time in the water. All that chlorine's done something to your brain!
你什么都没学到吗？ - 有时我不知道他从哪来 - Have you learned nothing? - Sometimes I don't know where he came from.
没什么 Nothing!
布如斯？布如斯 Bruce? Bruce.
我不想跟他说话 I don't wanna talk about it. He won't get off my back.
我从以前一个学生那听说了这个社区 I heard about this community from a former student of mine.
这是我的第三次旅行了， 听说结果很轰动 This is my third trip, and already the results have been astounding.
据我估计，在芝加哥这种案例有三十万… By my calculation, there are over 300,000 cases here in Chicago...
但是从没有人愿意谈及这个问题 and no one's ever even bothered to talk to them before.
这是个信息的金矿，马丁，我们要自己来挖掘 It's a gold mine of information, Martin, and we've got it all to ourselves.
你要什么，帅哥？ What'll it be, handsome?
两杯啤酒 Two scotches.
我发现啤酒是社会交流的本质工具．． I find liquor is an essential tool for social lubrication...
我很少喝酒，但来这是出于研究需要，没办法的事 although it has involved more drinking than I thought I would ever do in a lifetime.
让我们开始吧 Let's get started.
你好，我是印第安纳大学的金赛博士… Hello, I'm Professor Kinsey from Indiana University...
我正在做一个关于性行为的研究 and I'm making a study of sex behavior.
可以坐下来聊聊吗？ - 我想你是在开玩笑吧 - Can we sit and talk? - I assume you're joking.
不，我不是开玩笑 No, I'm not.
如果你回答关于你性经历的问题，我会非常感激 I'd be grateful if you'd answer some questions about your sexual history.
这位先生是个教授 Mary here is a professor.
他说他要研究我的性经历 She says she wants to study my sex behavior.
叫他坐在一边看着吧 Well, tell her to stick around and watch.
过来，安迪，别理这个臭男人 - 等不及了 Andy's here. You have to see what he's wearing. -I can't wait.
那是安迪 That Andy.
你好，我是金赛博士－－ Hello. I'm Professor Kinsey from--
打扰一下，我是金赛博士 Excuse me. I'm Professor Kinsey.
打扰一下 Excuse me-- Hello.
你好，我是印第安纳大学的金赛博士… I'm Professor Kinsey from Indiana University...
我正在做性行为的研究 and I'm making a study of sex behavior.
我可以问你几个问题吗？ - 我听说过你 - Can I ask you a few questions? - I've heard about you.
你是性博士，对吧？ - 我想是吧 - You're the sex doctor, right? - I guess I am.
如果你愿意帮忙跟我聊聊，将对科学是一大帮助 If you'd be kind enough to talk to me, it would be of great help to science.
当然，你想知道什么？ Sure. What do you want to know?
同一个人，汤密珀特 Same boy. Tommy Potts.
我们在干草堆里做… We were messin'around in a haystack...
你知道，这种方式，小山羊会做 you know, the way kids'll do.
后来鲍泊来了… Pop walked in...
发现了我们，把我们锁在了谷仓 found us, locked us in the barn.
我打电话叫我的兄弟来… Called my brothers in.
他们－－ They, um--
他们给我们打烙印 They branded us.
轮流做 Took turns doin' it.
然后打我们 Then they beat us raw.
断了两根肋骨和锁骨 Broke a couple ribs, collarbone.
汤密，他 Tommy, he, uh--
他没有进展，直到我出手 he didn't make out as well as I did.
- 当时你几岁了？ - 13岁． What age were you? - Thirteen.
从那以后你就是单身？ - 是的 - And you've been on your own since then? - I get by.
我不建议同性恋 It's not that I mind being queer.
当然，我不会 'Cause I don't.
这仅仅… It's just, um...
我希望其他人不要对这件事那么反感 I wish other folks weren't so put out by it.
同性恋现在… Homosexuality happens to be...
在社会中看来很落伍了 out of fashion in society now.
但并不意味着他们不会哪一天改变一下 That doesn't mean it won't change someday.
是的 Right.
但为什么我以前没有见过你？ But why didn't I see it before?
人类只是更大更复杂一点的黄蜂 Human beings are just bigger, slightly more complicated gall wasps.
我要做的就是收集最多的资料 All I have to do is collect more than anyone else...
同性恋是个绝佳的入手点 and homosexuals are the perfect place to start.
什么？ What?
不好意思，刚才听了你说的，我想起了几个朋友 I'm sorry. I just had an image of some of our friends hearing you right now.
你的婚姻教育课还不够坏 As if the marriage course isn't bad enough.
泊克，答应我，你回来之前至少要有四个小时睡眠 Now, Prok, promise me you'll get at least four hours sleep before heading back.
当然了 Of course.
还有不要自己开车 And let Clyde share in the driving.
泊克？ Prok?
好的，马克 Okay, Mac.
我要挂断了 I'll sign off now.
我爱你 I love you.
我也爱你 Love you too.
你知道我印象最深刻的是什么吗？ You know what impressed me tonight?
什么啊？ Mmm?
是他跟人们说话的方式 The way that you talk to people. You can get just about anybody to open up.
呃，这大概是… Oh, well, it's just a matter of, uh...
很快就能让人敞开心扉 putting yourself on their level.
不仅如此 No, it's more than that.
你还会有同样的感受 You really seem to care.
你在整理记录吗？ - 怎么样？ this rating scale of yours? - Mm-Hmm?
哦， 零到六－－ Uh, zero to six--
没有一个是完全异性恋的… Zero being exclusively heterosexual...
六个是完全同性恋 and, uh, six being exclusively homosexual.
很多人介于两者之间 A great many people line up somewhere in the middle.
你凭什么觉得这样没错 - 常识 - What makes you think that's true? - Common sense.
记得我们以前关于… Remember, about a third of our heterosexual histories...
同性恋和异性恋比例的基本调查吗？ have homosexual acts, and vice versa.
记得 Right.
我想我算是第三种类型了 I guess I'm about a three, huh?
根据你的性经历… Based on your sexual history...
我说得没错 I'd say that's, um, right.
你呢？ How about you?
我应该说生活中… I suppose I've been a one or two...
我不是一就是二… most of my life...
即使需要花很长时间… even though it's taken a long time...
去认识这一点 to recognize it.
现在呢？ And now?
也许… Probably...
是第三种 th-three.
你没有采取任何措施吗？ Have you ever done anything about it?
你想要吗？ Would you like to?
我隐藏了许多其他人的秘密 I've taken on so many other people's secrets.
我不想隐藏自己的… I don't want any of my own...
特别是对你 and certainly not with you.
你仍然什么都没说 You still haven't said anything.
其实也不算．． It's not like I'm...
很惊讶 surprised exactly.
这几年我观察到了… I've observed...
一些迹象 certain things over the years.
例如？ Such as?
表情，或手势 A look or a gesture.
那学生突然成为我们家庭的一员… The pet student who suddenly becomes a member of the family...
又突然离去 and then just as suddenly disappears when you tire ofhim.
我觉得你应该比我更了解我自己 I think you must know me better than I know myself.
我不确定… But I'm not sure...
我理解你 I understand.
但我一直对你想要的东西保持开放的心 Haven't I always been open to whatever you wanted?
不是你的错 你是男人能拥有的最好的女人了 It's not you, Mac. You're the best partner any man could have.
但是还不够，对吧 I'm just not enough. Is that it?
马克 Please, Mac.
我的内心我还不完全清楚 This is inside of me. To what extent, I don't know.
但是如果我不懂装懂 But I'd be a hypocrite if I pretended it wasn't there.
当我知道你的历史的时候… - 不要！不要！ - When I took your history... - Don't! Don't!
你是否承认对其他男人有过性冲动？ - 不要用这个来驳斥我 - didn't you admit to having sexual feelings for other men? - Don't use that against me!
对不起，什么使你忠于感觉的？是传统 I'm sorry. But what keeps you from acting on your feelings? Convention.
不，完全是婚姻 是我们的孩子们 No! It's our marriage! It's our children!
没错，社会限制 Exactly. Social restraints.
可不可以不要这样想，我们竟然遵守社会限制… Did you ever stop to think that perhaps those restraints are there...
以避免人们继续互相伤害 to keep people from hurting each other?
我不和其他男人睡觉，因为我爱你… I don't sleep with other men because I love you...
我不想伤害你 and I don't want to hurt you.
你不伤害我又怎样？ But what if it didn't hurt me?
我也会受伤 Then I'd be hurt.
你只是害怕我不再爱你了，但那是不可能的 You're just afraid that I won't love you anymore, which is impossible, Mac.
人和动物可以有个各种各样的性行为 The human animal is capable of all kinds of sexual expression.
不是所有的性都会被爱制裁 Not all sex has to be sanctioned by love, enriched by emotion.
闭嘴－－ - 停 - To the Greeks-- - Stop!
不要说教了，泊克 Stop lecturing, Prok.
不要用科学来为你的所作所为辩护 Stop using science to justify what you've done.
马克 Oh, Mac.
马克 Mac.
听我说 Listen to me.
你是我的女人 永远都会是 You're my girl. You always will be.
我们的结合，共同分享的生活－－ The bond we have, the life we share--
与之相比，性根本不值一提 sex is nothing compared to that.
我不能再跟你谈这个了 I can't talk about this anymore.
很多人认为他们的性行为… Most people think that what they do sexually...
也是其他人所做… is what everyone does...
或该做的 or should do.
但是，我必须宣称所有的所谓性变态行为… But I might remark that nearly all the so-called sexual perversions...
都在正常的生物学行为范围内 fall within the range ofbiologic normality.
比如说，手淫… For example, masturbation...
口交以及同性恋行为… mouth-genital contacts and homosexual acts...
在很多动物间都是正常的… are common among most mammals...
包括人类 including humans.
社会可能会从道德层面谴责此类行为 Society might condemn such practices on moral grounds.
但是，从生物学角度这是很自然的 However, it's ludicrous to call them unnatural.
但是根据调查到的… But based on the first Book of Genesis...
公众意见… and according to public opinion...
有一条等式－－ there's only one correct sexual equation--
男人加女人等于孩子 man plus woman equals baby.
任何其他东西都是次要的 Everything else is vice.
但是对男性性高潮的记录证明了… But the orgasm record of the males in this classroom alone...
社会规范限制作用的无效性… proves the ineffectiveness of social restrictions...
以及人类在性知识上的无知 and the imperativeness of the biologic demand.
为什么有些母牛经常性交… Why are some cows highly sexed...
有些却只能站在那里？ while others just stand there?
为什么有些男人需要一周三十次高潮… Why do some men need 30 orgasms a week...
有些人几乎不需要？ and others almost none?
因为每个人都是不同的 Because everyone is different.
问题是，很多人想要跟人一样 The problem is, most people want to be the same.
他们发现… They find it easier to simply ignore...
忽略这一人类基本规律似乎来得更容易 this fundamental aspect of the human condition.
他们如此渴望成为群众的一员… They're so eager to be part of the group...
他们会出卖同类以达到目的 that they'll betray their own nature to get there.
如果某种乐趣或渴望达到的东西被禁止… If something pleasurable and strongly desired is prohibited...
就变成了一种迷恋 it becomes an obsession.
想想这一点 Think about this.
你应该去… You have better things to do...
帮助一中年妇女搬杂物 than help a middle-aged woman home with her groceries.
当泊克追不到你的时候，他开始担忧了 Prok got worried when he couldn't reach you.
说他每晚应该讲点历史… Said he had to take histories later this evening...
所以他想早点吃晚饭 so he'd like an early dinner.
什么时候？ - 大约五点多 - Hmph. - Preferably 5:00.
几乎没有时间煮蛋了 Hardly gives me time to boil an egg.
要帮忙吗？ - 不用了，我可以 - Can I help? - No. I'll manage.
不好意思，还要麻烦你送来 I just-- I'm sorry he made you play messenger.
不用客气，是我自愿的 No. I volunteered.
哦 Mmm.
听到没有？ Hear that?
什么？ - 鸟筑巢的声音 What? - the sound of an empty nest.
是否要做些调整 你有布如斯的消息吗？ Must be a big adjustment. Have you heard from Bruce yet?
没有，他住在学校 No. He's loving college.
也许只是暂时的 Maybe it's just being away from here.
哦 - 你要来块馅饼吗？ Oh. - Would you like a piece of pie?
大黄馅饼？ - 来一个吧 Rhubarb? - have a seat.
你知道吗，我一开始并不怎么喜欢你 You know, Clyde, I didn't like you very much at first.
我不怪你 I don't blame you.
很多女人都这样 - 喔，我知道 Most women Would have had me murdered. - Oh, I considered it.
我不喜欢把自己看得那么保守 I hate to think of myself as conventional.
但是，该发生的总要发生 But if this had to happen...
我想你就是这样个人 I'm glad it was you.
我不想从中获得什么利益 And I... have to admit there have been some benefits.
不要再从性的方面谈问题就是了 It certainly sparked things up sexually.
假设我们都从没意识到那一点 I suppose we'd both grown bored without even realizing it.
我觉得你已经处理得很好了 I think you've handled it remarkably well.
很久以前我就上了一课 I learned something a long time ago.
一旦开始的东西就没法阻止 Once Prok has his mind set, it's no use trying to stop him.
是的 Yes.
他很 He is...
无情 relentless.
为什么？ Clyde?
你知道，这只是我和他之间的事… You know, this thing between Prok and me...
有段时间还好， 但… it was fine for a while, but...
我想我还是很怀念跟女人睡觉的日子 I guess I just really miss sleeping with women.
这完全可以理解 That's perfectly understandable.
实在是个惊人的发现，你对女人的兴趣大于男人 It's clear from your history,you have a greater sexual interest in women than men.
好 Good.
如果我叫她跟我做爱你不会介意吗？ Then you won't mind if I ask Mac to have sex with me?
当然是，如果对你有吸引力的话 I mean, only if it appeals to you, of course.
我们三个一起睡觉吗？ - 不是，只是你和我 Would it be separately or together? - Oh, definitely Just you And I.
我想我会接受的 Oh, I think I might like that.
你觉得呢？泊克 What do you think, Prok?
洛克菲勒基金会今天要来了 Mac. The Rockefeller Foundation is coming today.
你知道我是多么享受这种性生活 You-You know, I enjoy this... tremendously.
我们还要准备一下 We still have to catalog those prints, Martin.
请 - 过来，泊克 Please. - Coming, Prok.
就来了，这一天真是太爽了 - 噢 - It's just-- It's a very full day. - Mm-hmm.
来啦 Coming!
了解外国文化的一个关键是色情文化 One key to understanding a foreign culture is its pornography.
每种文化都有它自己独特的性图像－ Every culture produces its own peculiar sexual imagery--
很有代表性 as distinct as its cuisine.
你可以看到巴西的很野性… As you can see, Brazil's imagery tends towards zoophilia...
而它的领国则相对收敛 while Italy favors nuns and priests.
在英国，人们经常看到对严厉的女校长的描绘 In England, one often sees depictions of the stern headmistress--
老是板着脸 wankers and spankers.
而在远东，用围带来掩饰 While in the Far East, it's soft ''flage''and light bondage.
你的收藏还真让人耳目一新 You've amassed an impressive collection.
过奖了，如果我能用自己的储蓄购买就好了 Thank you. Only what I've been able to afford from my own savings.
但，如果洛克菲勒基金会愿意设立奖金… But if the Rockefeller Foundation agrees to our grant...
那么其中一些收藏可以捐给世界经典博物馆 some of that money will help us build a world-class library.
赫曼，那个有两百年历史了 Um, Herman? That's 200 years old.
哦 - 你知道什么时候可以决定吗？ Oh. - have you any idea When you might decide?
泊克，自重点 贵宾就在此地 Prok, please, Dr. Gregg just got here.
有时候我为宝物传世而惊讶 Sometimes I'm amazed anything has survived.
我们的博物馆有个传统… The Library of Congress has a policy...
摧毁一切认为是异邦的东西 of destroying whatever it considers too erotic.
损失不计其数 The loss to science has been, uh, incalculable.
晚餐前有足够的时间记录你的性史 There's plenty of time to take your sex histories before dinner.
谁先来？ Who'd like to go first?
我－－ I--
我，我不… I-I-- I don't, uh--
几天前，有人问我在找什么 Early in my bug-hunting days, someone asked me what I was looking for.
我说除非我看到了数据，我不知道怎么说 I said I wouldn't know until I saw it statistically.
科学家只有得到数据统计… A scientist can only generalize with reliable certainty...
才能肯定给出答案 if he has enough statistical information.
这是你第一次来布卢明顿吗，格雷格博士？ Is this your first time in Bloomington, Dr. Gregg?
是的，比我想象的要美的多 Yes. It's lovely. Hillier than I expected.
我们决定把美国划分为… That's why I've broken the American population down...
两个大的社会亚群体 into 200 major social subgroups.
我们将从每个地方划出400到1000人到每个群体… We'll get anywhere from 400 to a thousand histories from each group...
总共100，000 可能有点浮动 for a total of 1 00,000, give or take a few.
可能要花20年，但是，最终我们可以回答… It could take 20 years, but, at the end, we'll finally be able to answer...
人类性爱的大部分问题 most of the basic questions about human sexuality.
赫曼，食物不好吃吗？ Herman, is the pot roast dry?
不，味道很好 No. It's delicious.
最初的出版物将主要研究男性… The first publication will be a male volume...
几年以后以女性为主… followed a year later by the female study...
还有九本书论述同性恋… then another nine books dealing with sex offenders, homosexuality...
怀孕，流产以及艺术－－ pregnancy and abortion and art--
当然是从性的角度来研究 studied from a sexual standpoint, of course.
孩子们走了，我连做饭机会都少了 With the children gone, I don't get to cook big meals anymore.
麦克，让我们转入正题 Mac. Let's get to the point.
这个项目是我们接下的最大的一笔… This project is one of the greatest ever undertaken...
关于人和动物关系的研究 in connection with the human animal.
可是如果没有洛克菲勒财团的支持，这根本不可能起步 But without support from the Rockefeller Foundation, it will never get off the ground.
可仍然有一些人会争论说… There are those who argue that...
性在很大程度上是一个感情和心理态度的问题 sex is largely a matter of feelings and psychological attitudes--
这超出了动物学家的能力范围 things beyond your training as a zoologist.
就如同生化学家不会分析 烹饪，因为他们不是厨师 That's like saying a biochemist can't analyze cooking because he's not a chef.
太抽象了 - 金教，拜托 - It's inane. - Prok, come on.
够了，这真是一个愚蠢的看待事物的方式 That is, it's really a very stupid way of looking at things.
科学的其中一个目标就是把事物简单化 One of the aims of science is to simplify.
唯一一个可以从科学角度精确的学习性的方式… The only way to study sex with any scientific accuracy...
就是抛开一切无关的掩饰只从生理机能上研究 is to strip away everything but its physiological functions.
你需要多少人的团队？ And this team you're proposing?
我至少需要两个人来帮我，而且都必须拥有理科高学历 I'll need two pair of hands at least-- both with advanced degrees in science.
克莱德·马丁，最佳人选 And Clyde Martin, of course.
介于你正在研究如此精密的领域… Since you're working in such a delicate area...
他们应该尽可能的干净(清白？） they need to be as clean as Fuller Brush men.
嗯… Um--
挨家挨户的推销员，金教． Door-to-door salesmen, Prok.
我觉得格雷格博士的看法是任何跟项目有关的人员… I think what Dr. Gregg is saying is that anyone involved in the project...
必须有很纯的科学上… needs to have motives that are entirely pure...
…的超越道德观念的精神 ....and scientific and above reproach morally.
完全同意 - 阿 I couldn't agree more. -Ah.
还有一件事 - 嗯？ - Now, there's one more thing. - Mm-hmm?
我希望你不要单单关注性变态和反常性行为 I hope you're not planning to dwell on sexual oddities and perversions.
科学一直都是对反常事物感兴趣 Science is always interested in the rare.
是的，不过以正常研究为主才是明智的选择 Yes, but it's advisable to stick to what's normal.
你并不想震撼世人吧 You don't want to shake people up.
当然不了，我只不过是一个分类学家而已，比较好奇 Of course not. I'm just a taxonomist-- a measurer.
我很乐意把这些社会政策交给别人去处理 I'm happy to leave the social policies to others.
啊，啊… Ah. Ah.
嗯，这听起来不错，很不错 Well, that all sounds good. Very good.
既然这样，如果你已经准备好了… So, if you're ready...
我就开始了，先从一些简单的基本问题开始 I'd like to begin with a few background questions.
不，这全错了，开始应该比较放松的 No. All wrong. Start by putting the subject at ease.
想喝点什么吗，麦克？ Would you care for a drink, Mac?
一杯水就好了 Why, a glass of water would be very nice.
周末有什么乐子么？ Do anything fun this weekend?
我女儿在城里，所以我没停 My daughters were in town, so I never stopped.
我周六晚上吃了一顿好的 We had a marvelous meal Saturday night.
真的？你做了什么？ - Really? What did you cook?
我一开始先作了一些… Well, I started with a little--
看看她放松了多少？ See how much more relaxed she's become?
如果对于这些无伤大雅的问题觉得放松了的话… If you ease in with innocuous questions...
别人继续提问的时候你就会忘记了紧张 people forget they're giving sex histories.
你怎么学会手淫的？ How did you first find out about masturbation?
我自创的 I invented it, son.
有时候我射精的时候会在我的睾丸绑上绳子 Sometimes I tie a rope around my balls when I jerk off.
- 你还有其他被虐的方式么？ - And what other masochistic acts do you enjoy?
你是指＂同性恋＂么？ - Does that mean ''queer''?
你多久性交一次？ How often do you have intercourse?
两三次 Two or three times.
每个月？ A month?
不，每天 - 嗯 No, a day. - Mmm.
你一般多久才会达到高潮？ How often do you reach orgasm?
一次 Once.
每天？ A day?
不，只有一次 No. Only once.
大概二十年前 About 20 years ago.
当时我坐在钢琴座位上听音乐 I was sitting on a piano stool listening to music.
嗯，哦，很不错 Mm. Oh, that's good.
你第一次跟伴侣做爱时多大？ How old were you when you first engaged in sexual activity with a partner?
14岁 Fourteen.
跟谁？ How?
一个妓女 With horse.
你14岁的时候跟动物做爱？ How often were you having intercourse with animals at age 14?
真的，我干了一匹小马 Is true. I fucked a pony.
你真是个天才 你怎么知道的？ You are genius. How did you know?
你刚说你跟一匹马做爱 You just said you had sex with a horse.
不，是妓女 (英语单词妓女Whores和马horse发音很像) No. Whores.
不是马，是妓女 Not horse. Whores.
你有没有找到什么典型点的回答？ Do you find my answers typical?
我正常么？ - 我正常么？ Am I normal? - Am I normal?
我正常么？ Am I normal?
是的，我在餐厅的碗橱里面找到了一本书… Yes. I found a book in the dining room buffet...
在桌布下面找到的，我把它藏在我的体恤衫下面… under all the tablecloths, and I used to put it under my shirt...
跑到厕所去看 and go into the bathroom and sit and read it.
我看了以后吓了一跳 But I was very frightened.
她告诉她妈妈她不喜欢 - 我怎么才能搞定呢？ - She told her mother that she didn't like it. - How will I get it back?
或者也许只是她妈妈不喜欢而已 Or maybe it was just her mother who didn't like it.
在你知道之前警察就把你带走了 Before you know it, the police bangin' on the front door.
可是我当时并不知道它是违法的 Hell, I didn't even know it was illegal.
到现在我在这里已经5年了 - 那些老女人其中一个在比赛中发现了我 - Now I'm in here for five years. - One of them old gals caught me out in the field.
我当时也就9，10岁 I guess I was about nine, 1 0.
她说她要带我去参加一种叫做 puddin 的游戏 And she say she was gonna show me a new game called ''puddin'.''
然后，我觉得有几分喜欢这个游戏 and, Well, I guess I kinda liked it.
把马关在厩里，看着它们… Horses in the stable, and by watching them
那个父亲说＂我把支票放到你妈的钱包里面＂… The father said, ''I put my roll of bills in your mother's pocketbook...
然后你们就是找给我的零钱 - 可是这感觉很好 - and I got you for change.'' - But it felt good.
我认为我自己很下贱，很可怕 - 我相信上帝 - I saw myself as nasty and terrible-- - I believe in God--
我去找我哥哥 I went to my mother--
妈妈，这是真的么？ ''Mama, is this true?
男人真的会把一些东西放到女人身体里面么？ Do men put their thing in women?''
我只放过一次 I only did it that one time.
如果你不是处女，你就是一个下贱的女人，没人会要你 If you weren't a virgin,you were a fallen woman. Nobody would want you.
通过男女的第一性征来检验我们 Tested us for, uh, masculine and feminine traits.
他们当时全身赤裸 - 它是我的一部分 they were both naked. - it was part of me.
你可以吻你的新娘了 You may kiss the bride.
你知道金塞教授给我们找了住的地方？ Did you hear Professor Kinsey found a place for us to live?
哦，让我猜一下，具体这里并不远 Oh, let me guess. It's just a few blocks from here.
你怎么知道？ - 他喜欢把大家都聚在一起 How did you know? - he likes to keep the troops in one place.
至少你通过了测验 At least you passed the test.
你什么意思？ - 他拿到了你的性生活经历，对么？ - What do you mean? - Well, he took your sex history, didn't he?
嗯 Mm-hmm.
他不会让克莱德娶你的，除非他觉得你合适 Well, he wouldn't have let Clyde marry you unless you fit in.
哦，克莱德没跟你提起过日程安排么？ Uh, didn't Clyde mention the calendars?
金教希望我们能记录下我们的性经历 Prok likes for us to keep a record of our sexual activity.
- 告诉他们你那晚作的梦 - 嗯！ - Tell them about that dream you had the other night. - Mmm!
我当时正在疯狂的做爱 I was in the middle of the most intense erotic encounter--
他不能说跟谁 - 突然门开了… - He wouldn't say who with. - when all of a sudden the doors flew open...
金教站在那里严肃地看着他 and there was Prok standing there with that stern look of his.
格巴特，快点！你在浪费时间！ ''Gebhard, hurry up! You're wasting countless thousands of hours of project time.''
不用说，情绪被破坏了 Well, needless to say, the mood was broken.
所以他醒来了，我来继续 这是他最快达到高潮的一次 So he woke up, and I had to take over. It was the quickest orgasm he ever had.
我们想要个孩子… We're trying to get pregnant again...
所以当时并没有雨衣来减缓这个感觉么？ so, uh, there was no raincoat to dull the sensation.
哦 Oh.
金塞知道你这么说话么？ Do the Kinseys know that you talk like this?
啊… Uh--
我能照张像么？？ - 嗯… Could I get a picture? - Um...
你渡完蜜月回来为什么不给我打电话？ why don't you call me when you get back from the honeymoon?
我们可以吃顿午饭 We'll have a nice long lunch.
看这只小鸟 - 哦 Look at the birdie. - Oh.
不，我已经拿到报告了 谢谢你 No, I've got the report. Thank you.
啊，早熟经常会发生在城镇里的孩子身上，逗号… Uh, often among boys who live in cities and towns, comma...
在乡下的孩子身上并不常见，句号 less often among farm boys, period.
也许你可以说＂小地方来的孩子们＂… Perhaps you wanna say ''boys from small towns''...
- 来代替＂乡下的孩子们＂ - 说＂乡下的孩子们＂ - instead of''farm boys. '' - Say-Say farm boys. Farm boys.
有什么区别？ 不管怎么样，他需要重写 What's the difference? He's gonna rewrite it anyway.
亨利 Henry.
这里一切都好 Everything looks in order here.
你在这里祈祷或者参加圣诞弥撒 You can have either Thanksgiving or Christmas off.
完全看你自己 Your choice entirely.
在我走之前你还需要什么？ Do you need anything before I go?
如果大家都早走的话，我们一辈子都写不完这本书 We'll never get this book done if people start leaving early.
如果你让我帮忙的话我就留下来 I'll stay if you let me help you with these.
你没时间一一作答 You don't have the time to answer each one personally.
如果人们愿意这么麻烦的写信，我已经尽最大能力了 If people take the trouble to write, it's the least I can do.
金塞夫人说提醒你回家吃饭 Mrs. Kinsey said to remind you to come home to eat.
你父亲又打电话来了，需要我帮你回复他吗？ And your father phoned again. Do you want me to talk to him?
不用了，我来吧 No. I'll do it.
你永远在上帝的领域里… For thine is the kingdom...
感受上帝的能力和荣耀 and the power and the glory forever.
阿门 －阿门 Amen. - Amen.
哈喽，米尔德里德 - 莫里西先生 Hello, Mildred. - Mr. Morrissey.
来跟爸爸打个招呼 Come say hello to Father.
我们替你感到悲哀，阿尔佛雷德 I'm very sad for you, Alfred.
好像并不是这样，我会自己过好的 Well, it's not as though I'll be alone.
我女儿太胖了，找不到丈夫的 My daughter's too fat to get a husband.
我儿子失业了，他已经搬回来住了 And my son's lost his business. He moved back home.
我唯一摆脱的就是这个大科学家 The only one I got rid of is the big scientist.
现在他正在研究什么秘密的项目 Now he's working on some... secret project.
他一直都是一个神秘的人 He was always the secretive type.
你真的想知道我再做什么吗，父亲？ Would you really like to know what I'm working on, Father?
哦，听听，他要告诉我他的大秘密了 Oh, listen to this. He's gonna tell me his big secret.
其实这根本不是什么秘密 It's really not a secret at all.
我在尝试找出人们有什么性行为 I'm trying to find out what people do sexually.
你没听错，爸爸，是关于性方面的研究 You heard right, Father. It's a sex study.
好吧，你想让我怎么做，鼓掌喝彩？ Well, what do you expect me to do, applaud?
不 No.
我希望你能够赞助这个项目 But I would like you to contribute to the project.
哦 Oh.
你多大的时候搬到霍博肯来住的？ And you first moved to Hoboken at what age?
16岁 Sixteen.
就算没有我也可以做完这个面试的，艾尔 Could have done this interview without me, Al.
我有件事情没告诉你 I haven't told you a damn thing you didn't already know.
我们继续 Let's move on then.
你第一次手淫的时候多大？ - 什么？ How young were you When you first masturbated? - What?
摸你自己 - 我从来没做过 Touched yourself. - I never did that.
一个男人没经历过手淫的生活等于这个人是不存在的 The male without a history of masturbation is almost nonexistent.
可是，他是存在的，艾尔，而且我们正在看着他 Well, he exists, Al, and you're looking at him.
这行不通的 This isn't gonna work.
我不知道我为什么会心烦 I don't know why I bothered.
呆在那里别动 Stay where you are.
我再尝试一次 I'll try again.
你在青春期多久手淫一次？ How often did your masturbation occur in adolescence?
有一个问题，一个… There was a problem, a--
一个，慢… A ch--
医生们称之为“慢性疾病” ''chronic condition,'' the doctors called it.
这种情况出现多久了？ How long did this continue?
我穿上了… I was outfitted...
我必须一直戴着一条很紧的带子 with a tight strap that I had to wear at all times.
这使我无法碰到我的生殖器 It-- It kept me from coming into contact with my genitals.
这是个… It was a--
很令人尴尬的治疗方法，不过后来证实很有效 a highly embarrassing remedy, but it-it proved effective.
这种情况被治愈了 The condition was cured.
你当时多大？ How old were you?
10岁 I-I was 1 0.
对不起，爸爸 I'm so sorry, Dad.
我感觉有点累了 I'm feeling a little tired now.
听起来你是在浪费时间，艾尔 Sounds to me like you're wasting your time, Al.
没人想知道这种事情 Nobody wants to know about these things.
你好吗？我们什么时候能见到金塞博士？ How are you? When can we see Dr. Kinsey?
- 嘿，嘿，那就是他，那就是金塞！ - 他就在那 - Hey. Hey, that's him! That's Kinsey! - There he is.!
我是瑟曼·莱斯博士… My name is Dr. Thurman Rice...
我很乐意跟你谈论金塞教授的… and I'd be happy to talk to you about Professor Kinsey's...
- 在这里！ - 不一致的书 - Over here.! - repugnant book.
随便看，随便做笔记… You are free to read and take notes...
不过在任何情况下都不能把这些书带出这个房间 but under no circumstances is the manuscript to leave the room.
我不会阻拦你们走的不过可能有些小困难 I won't deny the going might get a little rough.
金塞教授的发现很令人惊奇，有时甚至令人震惊 Dr. Kinsey's findings are surprising, sometimes even shocking.
比如说夫妻做爱，这是大家都认同的… For example, marital sex, which is really the only kind everyone agrees on...
不过这只是美国男性达到高潮的九种方法之一 is only one of nine means by which the American male achieves orgasm.
婚前性经历，婚外性经历… Premarital sex, extramarital sex...
手淫和同性恋… masturbation and homosexuality...
比任何人想象的都要普遍 are much more prevalent than anyone has ever imagined before.
我可以向你确保，金塞博士… I can assure you that Dr. Kinsey...
用尽他所有的能力… has done everything in his power...
来使这本书尽量看起来高雅一些 to present this book tastefully.
所以，我觉得这是一个好机会… So, I thought this might be a good time...
来做一个演讲来筹集资金 to ask for a formal show of support.
没问题 Those in favor.
我不希望这件事太过公开 I just hope it's not going to bring too much publicity.
祝你好运，斯波尔丁夫人… With any luck, Mrs. Spaulding...
大众不会注意的 the general public won't even notice.
按照金塞的报告来看 According to the Kinsey Report
平均每一个你认识的人 Every average man you know
很多都喜欢他的情人来求爱 Much prefers his lovey-dovey to court
气温很低的时候 When the temperature is low
可是当温度升高 But when the thermometer goes way up
同时气候很热的时候 And the weather is sizzlin'hot
嘴巴先生为了他的女孩… Mr. Gob for his squab
那会是“平均的性”了，拜托 - 为女王而作的海景画 - That'll be ''sex-fifty'' please. - A marine for his queen
为了漂亮姑娘的美国大兵不… A G.I. for his cutie-pie is not
因为这太，太，太他妈的热了 'Cause it's too, too, too darn hot
在一个开放的社会… In an open society...
这些都是通过观察完成 it is done through observation.
不过在清教徒的文化中，性依然是肮脏的秘密… But in a Puritan culture, sex remains a dirty secret...
这些无知的人们以为这是很恐怖的 often made dreadful through plain ignorance of what to do.
记住我的话，一旦这本书的热度平息下来… Mark my words, as soon as the publicity dies down...
美国公众对这本书的欢迎度 the American public will greet this book...
会像雷声消失后那样沉寂 with the thundering silence it deserves.
金塞博士，什么风把你吹到纽约来了？ What brings you to New York, Dr. Kinsey?
我们将要谈论性历史，艺术，作家，演员… We'll be taking the sex histories or artists, writers and actors...
包括渴望的所有元素在内 including the entire cast of A Streetcar Named Desire.
我们还将为我们的下一本书采访女性，这本书是女性研究… We'll also be interviewing women for our next book, which is a female study...
与我们在洛克菲勒基金会的捐助人会面 as well as meeting with our benefactors at the Rockefeller Foundation.
对于你的作品的成功，你是否感到惊讶？ Are you surprised at the success of your book?
不，这说明世界需要它，世界在觉醒 No. It shows that the world has wanted this done.
想过把这本书改编成好莱坞剧本么？ Any plans on a Hollywood picture based on the book?
我想不出比这更无聊的事情了 I can't think of anything more pointless.
那你呢，金塞夫人？ What about you, Mrs. Kinsey?
你的生活有很大改变么？ Has your life changed much?
他比以往都要忙 从开始性研究之后 几乎没时间陪我 My husband's busier than ever. I hardly see him since he's taken up sex.
对于这次的女性研究你怎么看，金塞夫人？ What about this female study, Mrs. Kinsey?
先生们，先生们，先生们，请安静一下 Gentlemen. Gentlemen, gentlemen. Please.
如果你们想写一些有意义的东西… If you want to write about something useful...
我建议你们多读一点我的书 I suggest you look into the current sex offender codes.
历史上大部分在监狱里面的性罪犯… The majority of sex offenders in our prisons...
跟其他人没什么不同 have nothing in their histories different from the rest of the population.
他们唯一的罪名就是没有得到文明的承认 Their only crime is being too poor to hire a lawyer.
这很不公平 法不责众 This is unfair. Everybody's sin is nobody's sin.
如果大家都犯罪，那么大家就都没有罪 And everybody's crime is no crime at all.
法不责众 ''Everybody's sin is nobody's sin.''
这不是我的观点 That wasn't my point at all.
有些媒体就是断章取义 The newspapers lift things out of context to make sensational reading.
他们就喜欢哗众取宠 Still, it's hardly your place to offer moral prescriptions.
你听起来更像一个牧师而不是科学家 You're sounding more like a-a preacher than a scientist.
我父亲一直都希望我成为牧师 My father always hoped I'd become a preacher.
为什么你对于跟基金会的联系一直都保持高调呢？ And why do you insist on flaunting your association with the foundation?
我不是把最畅销的那本书都给你了吗？ Haven't I just given you the best-selling scientific volume ever published?
不仅局限于这里，而是要全世界范围的 - 是的 not only here But across the globe. - Yes.
他给这一领域的每一个方面都带来了福音… And it's casting a bright light on every aspect of the project...
尤其是你近期的一些方法 especially some of your latest methodology.
你在跟谁说话？ Who have you been talking to?
我想这只是闲言碎语而已 - 艾伦 Well, I assume that Most of it is gossip. - Alan.
听说，呃… It's been said that, uh...
你开始研究女性了 you've taken to observing women.
继续 - 而且金屋藏娇 Go on. - in a heightened state of arousal.
这是真的么？ It's true?
是的，你知道为什么吗？ Yes. And do you know why?
我们去找妇科主治医师要求作全面检查… We went to the leading gynecologists and asked for physical measurements...
可是他们完全不明白我们在说什么 and they barely knew what we were talking about.
当谈到女性高潮的时候… When it comes to female sex organs...
他们一点概念都没有 we're all tragically ignorant.
这些女人是谁？ Who are these women?
志愿者，来支持这个项目的朋友们 - 妓女 Volunteers. Friends of the project. - Prostitutes.
不，妓女是没用的，他们的高潮都是装出来的 No. Prostitutes are useless. They fake their orgasms.
天哪 - 艾伦 Jesus-- - Alan.
我们得到的这些性资料是无价的 The sex histories we have are invaluable.
大家都知道科学需要直接的目击证实 Everyone knows true science lies in direct observation.
什么都无法掩饰眼睛可以直接看到的东西 Nothing can replace what the eye can see directly.
或者摄像机拍到的 - 摄像机？ or the camera. - Camera?
别跟我说你在拍电影 Don't tell me. Y-You're making movies?
只是一些关于性行为的录像而已 Just some photographic studies of mammalian behavior.
哦，纯自然影片 Oh. Nature films.
动物 Animals.
是的，如果你喜欢 Yes, if you like.
先生，我们要与到一种很奇怪的生物 Gentlemen, you're about to meet a truly rare creature.
即使最轻微的碰触也会引起她的性冲动 Even the most casual contact arouses a sexual response in her.
在性交中，她的第一次高潮大概在… In intercourse, her first orgasm occurs...
插入的两到五秒钟后 within two to five seconds after entry.
都准备好了么，巴巴拉？ －我想是的 - All set there, Barbara? - I think so.
进来吧 Come on in.
你好 - 你好 Hello. - How do you do?
我跟你说过么，巴巴拉直到40岁才第一次性高潮 Did I mention that Barbara didn't have her first orgasm until she was 40?
注意，她在触摸她的阴唇和阴蒂 Notice how she gently strokes the inner lips and the clitoris.
84％的观察对象都是通过这种方式来刺激自己的 Eighty-four percent of our sample stimulate themselves in this way.
阴道呢？ What about the vagina?
景观除了极少数的女性， 阴道是一个死胡同… For all but a small minority of women, the vaginal tube is a dead cavity...
几乎没有神经末梢 practically devoid of nerve endings.
你可以看到，阴茎的介入… As you can see, the introduction of the penis...
对于性高潮刺激区没多大影响… does nothing to relocate the source of stimulation...
即使性伴侣很有技巧 even with as skillful a partner as Pomeroy.
是你吧，是不是？ - 我上次看的 - That is you, isn't it? - Last time I looked.
多年来，女性都以为只能靠阴蒂刺激从而带来高潮 For years, women have been told that a clitoral orgasm is immature, neurotic.
所以他们尽其所能… So they've struggled with great anxiety...
来让刺激转移到阴蒂和阴道… to relocate the orgasm in the vagina...
很多年来，在生物学角度上，这是不可能的 when, for many, it's a biologic impossibility.
生物分析表明，这个女人性冷淡 According to the psychoanalysts, this woman is frigid.
好消息 Good news, everyone.
洛克菲勒基金会今天通过我们的奖金了 The Rockefeller Foundation announced its annual grants today.
我们收到了提供给明年的4万美金 We've received $40,000 for the next year--
这是他们所赞助过的项目里面最高的 the highest grant they've ever bestowed on a scientific project.
而且 Well.
他们还同意在他们的名下开一家公司… And they've agreed to underwrite a new corporation...
给我们这个性学研究所招募一些员工 making us future employees of the Institute for Sex Research.
- 为了金塞 －干杯！干杯！ - To Dr. Kinsey. - Hear! Hear!
- 还有金塞夫人 －干杯！干杯！ - And Mrs. Kinsey. - Hear! Hear!
为了我们的丈夫们… 研究性的络腮胡子们… And to our husbands-- the Fuller Brush men of sex.
来这里，我的骚婆娘 Come here, my little prick nibbler.
Oh. Oh.
来吧，大家随便点 Come on. Everyone, enjoy yourselves.
你看起来不开心 Ah. You don't look happy.
不，我很开心，真的 No, I am. Really.
只是这次克莱德离开的太久了 It's just that Clyde is going to be away for so long this time.
哦，这样吧，你不用担心，我会随时看着他的 Ah. Well, don't worry. I'll keep an eye on him.
那有什么用啊？ A lot of good that will do.
马丁夫人，你到底想要说什么？ What are you trying to say, Mrs. Martin?
天哪，你真美 God, you're pretty.
先生们，拿起你们的葡萄酒，我们举杯同庆 Drink up your grapejuice, gentlemen.
我们只收集了9300例… We have gathered only 9,300 histories...
而且我们的女性研究部分还没有完成 and we have the female volume to complete.
明天我们还要继续努力 Starting tomorrow, we need to triple our efforts.
啊，还是在今晚啊，我的第三只腿 已经抽了我的脸好几次了… Well, it's still tonight, and since my third leg keeps hittin'me in the face...
我想是时候摔一跤了 I think it's time for a tumble.
大猩猩，这个跟我们血缘最近的灵长类动物… In the bonobo chimpanzee-- our nearest primate relation--
性对于他们来说代表着社会凝聚力和和平 sex is the glue of social cohesion and peace.
没有浪漫的爱… Cleared of notions like romantic love...
或者是宗教信仰还是道德观念… or religion or morality...
他们的社会行为结合在了一起… their society's behavior hangs together...
成为一个生物学整体 as a coherent unit ofbiology and conditioning.
根据愿意为我们做贡献的女性的研究为基础的… Based on the experiences of females who have contributed to our histories...
我们观察到了很大范围的私通行为的动机 we have observed a wide range of motivations for extramarital coitus.
有时，我们会有意识或者无意识的去追求社会地位 At times, it is a conscious or unconscious attempt to acquire social status.
从另外一个角度来讲这给了他们各式各样的经历… In other instances, it gives them a variety of experiences...
有时他们的性伴侣的地位会超过婚姻 with new sexual partners who are sometimes superior to their marriage partner.
有些场合这只是用来作为报复… There are occasions when it is done in retaliation...
伴侣的私通行为… for the partner's extramarital activity...
或者是某种虐待 or for some sort of nonsexual mistreatment.
有些女性发现有其他的方法给予感情上的满足… Some females discover new sources of emotional satisfaction...
同时另外一些发现很难将这些私密关系共享给… while others find it impossible to share such an intimate relationship...
超过一个伴侣 with more than one partner.
我们也鼓励他们尽量考虑多种可能… We have also encountered a considerable group of cases...
有可能丈夫会鼓励妻子与他人进行私通… in which husbands encourage their wives to engage in extramarital activities...
然后还给他们提供机会… in an honest attempt to give them the opportunity...
来作为额外的性满足… for additional sexual satisfaction.
我观察这个男人已经超过10年了，波默罗伊… I've corresponded with this man for over 1 0 years, Pomeroy...
可是我不相信他会同意见面 but I never thought he'd agree to meet.
他一生都在各处旅游 He's amassed a lifetime of data.
为林产部门收集数据… Working for the Forestry Department has involved a lot of traveling...
所以我见过各种各样的人们 so I've met a wide array of people.
顺便说一句，我的名字是… - 拜托，没有这个必要 - By the way, my name is-- - Please. There's no need.
肯尼思·布劳恩 不用担心金塞教授 Kenneth Braun. Don't worry, Dr. Kinsey.
我相信你 I trust you.
我们之间有很多相似的地方，你知道的 We're actually a lot alike, you know.
那又怎么样？ - 我记录下了所有我遇到过的… - How so? - I record everything too--
阴道的深度 the depth of every vagina I've encountered...
阴茎的长度和周长… the length and circumference of every penis...
达到高潮的时间… the time to reach orgasm...
射精的距离 the distance of ejaculation.
我全都写下来了 I've written it all down.
这是我的得意之作… This is the record of my-- my life's real work...
反正都是关于性的 which is sex, by the way.
呃，我发现记录下来一切，也是一种 Um, I find that recording is a--
重新经历曾经发生过的事物的一种方法，不是吗？ is a way to experience things a second time, don't you?
我也有一些…不寻常的能力 I also have certain... rare abilities.
从一开始的软弱无力… From a completely flaccid start...
我可以在10秒钟内勃起并射精 I can become erect and ejaculate in 10 seconds flat.
我只能说着从生理上是不可能的 I'd say that's pretty much physiologically impossible.
嗯，仅仅是血液的冲刷会… Why, the rush of blood alone would--
哦！哦！ Oh! Oh!
我们可以开始了吗？ Shall we get started?
我祖母在我10岁的时候介绍我去上性教育课 My grandmother introduced me to sexual intercourse when I was 1 0.
我第一次同性恋对象是，呃，我的父亲 My first homosexual act was, uh, with my father.
呃，当时我11岁… Uh, I was 1 1 --
33个家庭成员中… Of the 33 members of my extended family...
我跟其中17个发生过关系 I've had sex with 17 of them.
五代人 That's five generations now.
我的阴茎有8．24英寸长… My penis is 8.2 4 inches long...
完全勃起的时候直径有2．8英寸 with a diameter of 2.8 inches when fully erect.
我年轻的时候，最多一次射精有八毫升 In my youth, I averaged eight cubic centimeters of semen per ejaculation.
到了50岁就下降到5毫升 By the time I was 50, I was down to five.
我跟22种不同的动物性交过 I've had sex with 22 separate species of animals.
我跟9412个人发生过关系 I've had intercourse with 9,412 people.
跟我发生过性关系的有… I've had sexual relations with...
605个男童… 605 preadolescent males and...
231个女童 231 preadolescent females.
你见过男孩性高潮吗？ Have you ever seen a boy orgasm?
没有 No.
没有，是的 No, right.
我向这就是我一直做下去的原因 I guess that's why I'm such a catch.
生理角度来说，几乎跟成年人性高潮一样 Physiologically, it's almost identical to an adult orgasm.
是陪一下，我一会儿到楼下吧台找你 Screw this. I'll see you down at the bar.
我觉得你对他们有点偏心 I thought you trained them to be impartial.
有的时候很不好做的 Sometimes it's difficult.
确实，不过，一个像我这样的人… Yeah, well, I suppose someone like me...
让你们很难忍受，是吧？ really puts your beliefs to the test, huh?
为什么？ - 你知道的 How? - you know.
每个人都改去做自己想做的事情 - 我从来没那么说过 - Everybody should do what they want. - I've never said that.
每个人都不该被逼做自己不想做的事情 No one should be forced to do anything against their will.
没人应该受到伤害 No one should ever be hurt.
你知道么，你比我想象的要正直的多 You know, you're a lot more square than I thought you'd be.
继续吧 Let's get on with it.
好的 Sure.
拜托了，长官 Please, Governor.
你这么生气，我没有办法跟你理论 You're so angry, I can't reason with you.
等你冷静下来我们在谈吧 When you calm down, we'll discuss it.
好像有人泄密… Seems that the archbishop of Fort Wayne...
给海关了 tipped off the customs board.
这些人有毛病啊？一点都不正常 What is it with these people? They're simply depictions of man in his natural state.
我不懂什么叫做正常，金教… I don't know much about natural states, Prok...
可现在在印第安娜我们有点麻烦了 but here in the state of Indiana we have a problem.
我们要把海关的人叫到法庭上去 We'll just have to take the customs office to court.
谁来给钱呢，基金会么？ And who's gonna pay for that, the Rockefeller Foundation?
你的贷款也快没了 You're an inch away from losing your grant as it is.
不是那样的 你什么意思？ That's not true. What do you mean?
胡佛还在因为你不帮他… Hoover is still annoyed that you won't help him...
找出国会里的同性恋而郁闷呢 find homosexuals in the State Department.
有谣言说他正准备对付你呢… It is rumored that he is compiling dossiers... on you...
有关你的债务 the activities of your staff.
而你也知道，很多人埋怨你的数据统计方法 And, as you well know, there have been complaints about your statistical methods.
那都是胡说 Trumped-up nonsense.
都是一些假正经 Nothing but disguised prudery.
金教 Prok.
可能在男性统计里面出现了一些小错误… Maybe there were small mistakes made in the male study...
可是我们在女性研究里面改正了 but we've corrected them in the female volume.
这将会是一本伟大的书，赫尔曼 This will be a very great book, Herman.
比第一本好多了 - 希望如此 - Much better than the first. - Let's hope so.
自由和宽容距离我们还很远… Liberty and license are as far apart...
作为特权专制 as liberty and tyranny.
金塞是一个疯狂的人… Kinsey is a deranged Nebuchadnezzar...
鼓动女人们去牧场里面… leading women out into the fields...
跟家养牲畜交配 to mingle with the cattle.
出于对性的蔑视 ''Self-appointed messiah of the sexually despised.
和身为一个男人… ''Having had his way with the male of the species...
金塞侮辱了美国的女性 Kinsey now insecticizes American womanhood.''
你昨晚能睡着么？ Did you get any sleep at all last night?
我还需要学习多少年的人类行为学… How many years do I have to study human behavior...
才能不再冒犯他们呢？ before I'm no longer an entomologist?
你为什么要看，金教？ - 我想找出人们恨这本书的原因 - Why do you read them, Prok? - I'm trying to find out why people hate this book so.
你告诉人们他们的祖母和女儿都在手淫… You told them their grandmothers and their daughters are masturbating...
发生婚前性行为，或者乱交 having premarital sex, sex with each other.
- 你还指望什么？ - 一些尊敬！ - What did you expect? - Some respect!
别接 Don't answer it.
你好 －说说吧，金塞，你到底是个多么病态的人？ Hello. - Say, Kinsey, What kind of sick man are you?
你为什么走来走去抠鼻子？ Why do you wanna go around poking your nose
我们有麻烦了 We're in trouble.
电影明星的开支会很大的 The cost of film stock is astronomical.
我们的非营利身份不可以拿到折扣么？ Shouldn't our nonprofit status get us a discount?
金教，你要别人去做的话肯定要给全部的酬劳 Prok, you've got to let some of this go. We need a full-time accountant.
怎么搞得？ What in heavens?
住手！ Stop this!
马上住手！到我的办公室去 Stop it at once! In my office.
格巴特，进去 Gebhard, get in there.
所有人，回去工作！ Everyone, back to work.
你们知道现在是怎样的紧要关头吗？ Do you have any idea what a delicate time this is?
我们的敌人正在看着我们所作的事情 Our enemies are watching everything we do.
我们不能有一点的闪失 We can't afford a single slip-up.
这和我们的项目一点关系都没有 This has nothing to do with the project.
- 所有的事情都和计划有关！ - 这只是一个… - Everything is about the project! - Oh, it's just a--
- 误会 - 不，并非如此！ - a misunderstanding. - No, it's not.!
你把事情都搞到马丁的老婆身上了… You let things get out ofhand with Martin's wife...
现在她要离开他了 and now she wants to leave him.
是不是这样，马丁？ Isn't that right, Martin?
你呢，格巴特？你是不是打算离开艾格尼丝和孩子们？ And what about you, Gebhard? Are you planning to leave Agnes and the kids?
不，当然不是 - 那就这样吧 No, of course not. - Then end it.
我累了 - 并不难，告诉她已经结束了 - I've tried. - It's not difficult.Just tell her it's over.
不需要解释 －好的 No explanation necessary. -All right.
克莱德，我… Clyde, I'm--
我对这一切真的很抱歉 I'm very sorry about all of this.
我看到了 I saw this coming.
格巴特应该早就知道这事会发生的 Gebhard should have nipped it in the bud.
你真是狗屎！ You are so full of shit!
你把我们当成什么，金教？只是小白鼠？ What are we to you, Prok? We're just lab rats?
这是项目的另外一部分么？ Is this just another part of the project--
来证明性只是… to prove that sex--
不，不，很抱歉 做爱只是… No. No, I'm sorry. Fucking is...
只不过是摩擦无害的乐趣 nothing more than-- than friction and harmless fun?
好吧，让我告诉你… Well, let me tell you...
这是个危险的游戏，因为做爱不只是一部分 that is a risky game, because fucking isn't just something.
而是一切 It's the whole thing.
而且如果你不小心… And if you're not careful...
它就会狠狠地将你剖开 it will cut you wide open.
回家陪你的妻子，克莱德，她现在很需要你 Go home to your wife, Clyde. She's going to need you.
我以为规则很简单 I thought the rules were clear.
没人认为浪漫可靠 No intense romantic entanglements.
他只会让人们的生活变得不安定 They only make people's lives unstable.
我觉得我们可不像你那样严于律己，金教 I guess we all can't be as disciplined as you, Prok.
对于婚姻的问题… The question of marital infidelity...
仍然是当今社会面临的最大问题之一 remains one of the most complicated issues facing our society today.
已婚个体的和谐需要… Reconciliation of the married individual's desire...
多样的性伴侣… for a variety of sexual partners...
而且还要保持稳定的婚姻… and the maintenance of a stable marriage...
体现出一个无法为我们现在的文化所满足的问题 presents a problem which has not been satisfactorily resolved in our culture.
事实上，美国是一个性生活的大染缸… The fact is, America is awash in sexual activity...
只有其中一部分被社会认可 only a small portion of which is sanctioned by society.
性观念需要改革… Sexual morality needs to be reformed...
并且需要科学来指明道路 and science will show the way.
有时候… Sometimes--
我有时会想这个国家会变成什么样子如果… I sometimes wonder what this country would look like if...
清教徒都呆在家里 the Puritans had stayed at home.
如果那些街头的流氓小混混们… What if all the rogues and libertines...
都跨过大西洋去？ had crossed the Atlantic instead?
可是那些反对的力量会再次聚集… But the enforcers of chastity are massing once again...
对科学家进行威逼利诱… to dissuade the scientist, intimidate him...
使他中止研究… convince him to... cease research.
看在上帝的份上！ For heaven's sake!
如果你能阻止他 - 是的，金塞夫人 If you could get him- Yes, Mrs. Kinsey.
麦克 Mac.
他要自杀 He's killing himself.
你必须帮我阻止他 And you have to help me stop him.
好的 - 嗯？ Okay. - Hmm?
嗨 Hi.
医生说我的心脏… Doctors say my heart...
听起来像个搅拌机 sounds like a cement mixer.
至少他们找了一个 At least they found one.
我好像快要依靠仪器来生活了 Seems I've developed a dependency on barbiturates.
所以… So...
如果我最近对你很苛刻的话… if I've been a bit harsh lately--
爱丽丝怎么样？ - 她很好 - How's Alice? - She's fine.
我们都很好 你应该睡一会儿 We're fine. You should get some sleep.
这一直是我最害怕的，克莱德… It's always been my biggest fear, Clyde--
会在我完成这个工作之前死掉 dying before I finish this work.
通过这次对免税基金会的研究… In the course of these hearings on tax-exempt foundations...
我们要揭露共产党是如何侵蚀美国的 we intend to show how Communists are financed in the United States.
在这背后有一个险恶的阴谋… There is a diabolical conspiracy back of all this...
它的目的是促进美国的社会主义 and its aim is the furtherance of socialism in America.
你们是否同意金塞的研究… Do you agree that Kinsey's research...
对共产主义有促进作用… aids the communistic aim...
目的在于破坏我们的国家？ of weakening and destroying the youth of our country?
我不同意，先生 I do not agree, sir.
好吧，告诉我，格雷格博士… Well, tell me, Dr. Gregg...
洛克菲勒财团真的相信… does the Rockefeller Foundation really believe...
他们在搞性研究么？ that it belongs in the business of sex research?
我认为是一些… I think it's probably something...
根基金会一点关系没有的事情 the foundation shouldn't have anything to do with.
金塞教授的项目目前正处于… Dr. Kinsey's project is now in a position...
需要其他资金的援助… to obtain support from...
的时刻 other sources.
因为失去了洛克菲勒基金会… With the loss of support from the Rockefeller Foundation...
金塞的项目需要其他的资助才可以存活 Dr. Kinsey's project will need other funding if it is to survive.
金教？ Prok?
金教，你在家么？ Prok, you home?
我们已经动用了因为会员增加而留下的预算剩余… We are running a budget surplus due to increased enrollment...
这完全归功于金塞教授的成功和名誉． which is a direct result of Dr. Kinsey's success and fame.
这些钱的一小部分… A small amount of this money...
将会足够支持这个项目继续下去 would be enough to keep the project afloat.
金教？ Prok?
- 金教？ －为什么我们不投票决定呢？ - Prok? -Why don't we put it to a vote?
有谁愿意支持金塞教授？ All those in favor of increasing Dr. Kinsey's grant?
就这样了 That's it then.
这个女人在第一次月经的时候遭到父亲的殴打 This woman was beaten by her father when she first menstruated.
她现在已经失去了性交能力 Now she's incapable of physical intimacy of any kind.
还有这个男人…＂亲爱的金塞教授＂… And this man-- ''Dear Dr. Kinsey...
我花费了很长时间来给你写信… ''it has taken me a long time to write to you...
我原以为我感到可耻而且我… I suppose because I was too ashamed and I--''
那血是哪里来的？ Where'd that blood come from?
我自己割了自己的包皮 I punctured my foreskin.
我…我向体会不同的… I-- I wanted to understand different--
不同的感觉… different kinds of sensations.
这…阿…这并没有给我带来好心情 It, uh-- It didn't give me any pleasure.
而且…而且还有一点点… And there-- And there was only a little--
痛苦 pain.
我帮不了他们，麦克． I couldn't help them, Mac.
我也不明白 I couldn't figure it out.
别折腾你自己了 Just stop punishing yourself.
我为了大家已经把它毁了 Now I-- I've ruined it for everyone.
这种练习没有用的 This is an exercise in futility.
亨廷顿·哈特福德是 Ａ ＆ Ｐ 财产的继承人 Huntington Hartford is heir to the A & P fortune.
他随便动动笔就能解决你的财政问题 He can solve your financial problems with the stroke of a pen.
我不会去乞求的，麦克 I won't beg, Mac.
我不会去祈求别人的 I won't beg.
俄亥俄州不允许女人为男人口交但是允许男人为女人舔阴 Ohio deplores fellatio but tolerates cunnilingus.
然而在我的老家印第安纳州… Whereas in my home state of Indiana...
所有的动嘴的性行为都是违法的，即使是夫妻之间 all forms of oral sex are illegal, even within marriage.
嗯，现在的性法律对于现实社会完全不沾边 Mmm. The current sex laws are completely out of touch with the real world.
我曾经有过四个老婆 I've had four wives.
有人说这是我成为一个性犯罪者 Some people say that makes me a sex offender.
亨特， 如果你总是打断金塞教授… Well, Hunt, if you keep interrupting Dr. Kinsey...
你就会找到第五个老婆 you're going to have to find a fifth.
请继续 Please go on.
现在，43个州的法令对于通奸进行惩罚 Even now, 43 states will punish a single act of adulterous intercourse.
我想要建立一个博物馆 I'm thinking of building a museum.
金塞教授，你对现代艺术有什么看法？ What's your opinion of modern art, Dr. Kinsey?
哈特福德先生，这不是我的专业 It's not my area of expertise, Mr. Hartford.
我真的不认为我合适谈论着方便的东西 I really don't consider myself qualified to discuss it.
哦，为什么呢？ Well, why not?
因为我拥有几家超市… Just because I own some supermarkets...
并不代表我可以谈论杂货 that doesn't mean I'm only capable of talking about groceries.
哦，你是不是跟我一样痛恨现代艺术？ Oh. Do you hate modern art as much as I do?
波形曲线、空洞的油画、白商家白 Squiggly lines, empty canvases, white on white.
所以，下一本书将关于性犯罪？ So, the next book will deal with sex offenders?
我们需要资金，哈特福德先生 We need money, Mrs. Hartford.
我们… We--
我们需要某人出钱资助我们 We need someone to give us money.
你不知道我们要忍耐一切… You have no idea what I've had to endure...
来得到其他科学家的认同 just to obtain the same rights other scientists take for granted.
我的资金被削减… My funding has been slashed...
我的名字被这个国家内的… ...and my name has been dragged through the mud...
所有报纸和杂志诋毁 in every newspaper and magazine across this country.
我挣的每一块钱… 离我远点！ Every dollar I've ever earned has- Leave me alone!
我挣的每一块钱都用在这个项目上 Every dollar I've ever made has gone back into the project.
可是这次对海关的案子花费了我们非常大量的资金 我们现在面临破产了 But fighting this customs case has cost us an appalling amount. We're broke.
金塞教授… - 拜托了… Dr. Kinsey-- - Please.
我不知道我还剩下多少时间 I'm not even sure how much time I have left.
帮帮我，我必须要把这一切都记录下来 Help me. I have to get it all on the record.
呃，我很抱歉 Well, I'm very sorry.
任何我给予的支持都会被误解为对性的认可 Any support I give might be misconstrued as an endorsement of sex.
我可承受不了那样的曝光 I can't afford that kind of exposure.
我明白了 I see.
我相信会有人捐助的 But I'm sure something will come through.
你是对的，富人们都是思想懒惰 You're right. Rich people have lazy minds.
他们连找个水杯都需要五分钟 Took them five minutes to find a water glass.
我带你去医院 - 恩 恩 - I'm taking you to the hospital. - Mm-mm. Mm-mmm.
不，我不想再卧病在床了 No. No more beds.
我整个童年都躺在病床上 I spent my whole childhood lying in bed.
我们回医院吧，麦克 Let's go back to the hotel, Mac.
我想在早上拿到一些临床实例 I wanna pick up a few histories in the morning.
我们结婚23年，有了3个孩子 We'd been married for 23 years, with three marvelous children.
当我最小的孩子离开我去上大学之后… And as soon as my youngest left to go to college...
我在一个艺术基金会找了份工作 I took a job in an arts foundation.
在那里我遇到了一个女人… I met a woman there--
一个秘书 secretary in the grants office.
我们成为了朋友，而且… We became fast friends, and...
不久之后我就爱上了她 before long, I fell in love with her.
嗯，你可以想象，这确实令人吃惊 Hmm. This came as quite a shock, as you might imagine.
我越是想摆脱它… The more I tried to ignore it...
它的感觉就越来越强烈 the more... powerful it became.
你不会理解… You have no idea...
这种感觉，你的理智… what it's like to have your own thoughts...
跟你的意愿相对 turn against you like that.
我不能跟任何人说… I couldn't talk to anyone about my situation...
所以我找到了其他的解决方法 so I found other ways to cope.
呃，我开始酗酒 Uh, I took up drinking.
最后，我丈夫离开了我 Eventually, my husband left me.
甚至我的孩子都离开了我 Even my children fell away.
我几乎走到了尽头 I came very close to... ending it all.
这又让我想起了这个社会的… It's just another reminder of how little...
进步是多么的缓慢 things have changed in our society.
你在说什么？ 一切都好多了 What are you talking about? Things have gotten much better.
哦？怎么了？ Oh? What happened?
为什么，当然是你做到的 Why, you did, of course.
当我看了你的书以后，我意识到… After I read your book, I realized...
有很多其他的女人跟我一样 how many other women were in the same situation.
我才鼓起勇气跟朋友谈起这件事… I mustered the courage to talk to my friend...
然而令我吃惊的是，她告诉我… and she told me, to my great surprise...
她也有相同的感觉 that the feelings were mutual.
我们在一起已经快乐的生活了3年了 We-We've been together for three happy years now.
你拯救了我一生，先生 You saved my life, sir.
只有，呃，一个问题 Just, uh, one more question.
你刚刚告诉了我你的过去的一切… You'vejust told me your entire history--
童年，家庭，事业… childhood, family, career...
所有和你发生过关系的人… every person you've ever had sex with--
可是你从未提到过爱 but there hasn't been a single mention of love.
因为爱情根本没办法估量 That's because it's impossible to measure love.
而且你也知道，没有测量就没有科学 And as you know, without measurements, there can be no science.
我最近关于这个问题想了很多 But I've been thinking a lot about the problem lately.
哦，问题？ Oh. Problem?
当触及爱情，事情就复杂了 When it comes to love, we're all in the dark.
所以你认为这个有关系？ So,you do think it matters?
我们的飞机要多久，麦克？ What time's our flight, Mac?
几个小时 Not for a couple of hours.
我们在树林里面停一下 Let's stop in the woods.
麦克？ Mac?
我在这里，金教． I'm right here, Prok.
想象一下… Just imagine...
这些树木都有千年之久 these trees are over a thousand years old.
他叫：常青树… Hence the name: Sequoia sempervirens--
永远都是绿的，永远都是生机勃勃的 always green, always alive.
麦克，我跟你提起过 Mbeere？ Mac, did I ever tell you about the Mbeere?
没有，从来没有 No, not that I recall.
在非洲东部有一个古老的部落 They're an ancient East African tribe.
他们认为树木就是为完成的人… They believe that trees are imperfect men...
永远在哀叹… eternally bemoaning their imprisonment--
树根把他们永远锁在一个地方 the roots that keep them stuck in one place.
可是我并没看到过一颗不满足的树 But I've never seen a discontented tree.
看这棵树…他的根紧紧地抓在大地上 Look at this one-- the way its roots are gripping the ground.
我认为它很喜欢这样 I believe it really loves it.
来啊，麦克 Come on, Mac.
你着什么急？ What's the hurry?
还有很多事情要做 There's a lot of work to do.